with these times, what would be inviting

[tammysinnett]

this is just a hypo.....if you raised your own babies (had stallion on hand and broodmares to be leased or purchased and raising would be only cost) You found a trainier that would take the babiesto train for track and split the sales would it be an all win situation?? Even for the buyer???

[Crystal]

granted the offspring even made it to the track, showed talent, and there was interest in purchasing the baby.. Too many things would/could go wring in my opinion.

[Sock Monkey]

I'm not seeing what the benefit to the buyer is. But, otherwise, it sounds like a potentially good deal and certainly one worth exploring further. I think the big question is: what if a baby gets hurt and needs time or just doesn't sell? How will the trainer get compensated in that situation? And, how do you determine the sales price prior to knowing what the individual's talent is?

If I were the trainer I'd be wanting to know what my potential income would be upfront and be certain I wasn't going to be stuck doing all the work and paying all the bills for nothing. And if I were the owner, I'd want to know that the trainer was going to be able to care for the horses in an acceptable manner until they sold.

[Dave C]

There are trainers that do this now. They sell cheap horses to unknowing owners and pocket the difference, leaving the new owner sour. If as a breeder you can hook up with one of these trainers to scam unsuspecting new owners then you can ride that gravy train until the trainer burns all his bridges. If you can't find a trainer scamming unsuspecting buyers, you probably aren't going to find a trainer willing to get involved in this kind of deal. I'm not saying that you are looking to scam people, only that there isn't enough up side for the trainer to cover the risk if they aren't being dishonest.

[madelyn]

I'm afraid any trainer that would offer to do this might be the kind that should go back to his or her day job - and is NOT going to do you, your horses, and specifically YOUR STALLION, any favors at all. At least that is true of the trainers in my area.

On the other hand, one of my pals did something like this with a pinhooker and sold a two year old Very Well. Both my pal AND the pinhooker made money. But the pinhooker was someone with YEARS of experience and a good track record and my pal had a coming two year old by a TOP KY stallion who RNA'd as a yearling.

There is a trainer coming here this week to pick out a just-turned-three year old and work a deal - he came by yesterday to glance at them, as a favor to a pal of his who knows me.... First brush was good enough he wants to come Saturday so he can go over them with a fine tooth comb and pick one out. (I think he expected something quite different). This is a deal for no training fees and 50% of the horse's earnings. Again, he is a trainer who has been granted stalls at Churchill, has a serious track record, and has a few openings. He likes the no fee/50-50 split deal. We will have an agreement fair to us both - he will have a guaranteed amount of time to earn back his investment - I won't pull the horse from him - or will share in the proceeds of a sale properly.

I guess I'm saying it really depends on the quality of the horses and the quality of the trainer.

[tammysinnett]

been off the board awhile, and the business....had someone approach me, I thought it was a scam but wanted to make sure. Thankyou everyone for your imput. I hope everyone is doing well I do miss you all. My boy is enjoying his I am free to do as I please life right now. I will get to enjoy some of his babies this year....we are having moms back to our farm to birth. Just like grandchildren spoil them and send them home!!! Miss you all good luck with your 2009 TBs.