Valid Expectations and Valid Appeal

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Valid Expectations and Valid Appeal

Postby Roger » Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:15 pm

Valid Expectations is very much a dominant stallion, his babies all seem to look like him a lot and for the most part they are sprinters. Just looking at his pedigree, its hard for me to see where all these dominant genes come from. How big and what body types were Valid Appeal in Mepache. From what I can tell both were speed types. Have any of you seen VE's siblings, were built like him?
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Postby Jenny » Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:03 pm

Hi Roger
I can only comment on the mare I own. Beth's Expectation by Valid Expectation. She was a speedball and is as wide as she is tall with big powerful hindquarters. Approx 15.2 1/2 She is now a broodmare and her foals have the same powerful back end also. He first foal Streak Legal by Legal Jousting is a 3 yr old this year and is heading into the track. Can't wait.
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Postby Mahubah » Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:04 am

I never saw Valid Appeal personally, but from what I understand, he was a small (15.2), rather lightly made horse, generally correct except for upright pasterns. He had plenty of speed but stayed well enough to win the Dwyer when it was 9F and was an excellent mud runner.
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Postby Roger » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:33 am

Mahubah wrote:I never saw Valid Appeal personally, but from what I understand, he was a small (15.2), rather lightly made horse, generally correct except for upright pasterns. He had plenty of speed but stayed well enough to win the Dwyer when it was 9F and was an excellent mud runner.


Valid Expectations is only about 15.3, but he is more massive and his foals are like him some are taller, but still built like their sire. So there goes my theory that the best way to improve a horse is to breed two like body types with like running styles of successful horses. It doesn't make sense that he should be so dominant. It would seem that he would need to be full of homozygous dominant genes to be so consistant. Thanks Mahubah!
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Postby Linda_d » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:56 am

From his pic on pedigree query, he looks more like a QH than alot of QHs registered with the AQHA (hindquarters and musculature), so I'm not surprised that he was a sprinter himself and gets sprinters.

Where does his prepotency come from? There are a goodly number of horses with sprint ability on both sides of his pedigree, so maybe he just "lucked out" and got a lot of double pairs of the right genes.

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Postby Tappiano » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:02 am

Mahubah wrote:I never saw Valid Appeal personally, but from what I understand, he was a small (15.2), rather lightly made horse, generally correct except for upright pasterns. He had plenty of speed but stayed well enough to win the Dwyer when it was 9F and was an excellent mud runner.


Sounds like his son Proud Appeal too...

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