Just in case all y'all out there were wondering who they were going to breed Stardom Bound to when she retires...who knows when, and I know that is the first thing on everyones mind. The Bloodhorse is all over it with this great report.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/NOW/News/Bree ... 49101.aspx
Hoooray, now I can sleep without wondering anymore.
Stardom Bound to Big Brown
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Stardom Bound to Big Brown
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Ummm ... the mare is going to race this week end and it hasn't been decided when she'll be retired yet but they plan on breeding her to Big Brown in 2009? That's my understanding of the article at least.
Don't race mares coming off the track generally need some time -- a couple of months -- to adjust mentally and physically to the very different life of being a broodmare? Don't some mares not come into heat for a while because of the physical changes they go through because of the changes in ration, exercise, housing, etc?
Don't race mares coming off the track generally need some time -- a couple of months -- to adjust mentally and physically to the very different life of being a broodmare? Don't some mares not come into heat for a while because of the physical changes they go through because of the changes in ration, exercise, housing, etc?
This was nothing other than an attempt to generate more interest in Big Brown from breeders. His reception has been lukewarm from outside mare owners and they're marketing him as the new go-to for quality graded runners and producers.
The headline did exactly what it was intended to do. Make people take notice and read who else is in his book. Advertising 101.
The headline did exactly what it was intended to do. Make people take notice and read who else is in his book. Advertising 101.
ASB wrote:This was nothing other than an attempt to generate more interest in Big Brown from breeders. His reception has been lukewarm from outside mare owners and they're marketing him as the new go-to for quality graded runners and producers.
The headline did exactly what it was intended to do. Make people take notice and read who else is in his book. Advertising 101.
Really, lukewarm? I was wondering because I got weird vibes from the articles that've come out about him. Is that why they had something the other day crowing about this list of the creme de la broodmares who were being bred to him? I remember going 'er swell, takes a load off my mind.' I think one was D'Enough. Wow, gee, I hope they got the meeting of those two giants on film. Some folks that went to go see him were positive though. What negative things have you been hearing?
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Really, lukewarm? I was wondering because I got weird vibes from the articles that've come out about him. Is that why they had something the other day crowing about this list of the creme de la broodmares who were being bred to him? I remember going 'er swell, takes a load off my mind.' I think one was D'Enough. Wow, gee, I hope they got the meeting of those two giants on film. Some folks that went to go see him were positive though. What negative things have you been hearing?
I can't speak for anyone else, and have not heard any negatives about him, not that I'm really looking his way. Personally when you see an "article" (using article very loosely) like this it tends to mean a horse is not bringing what was expected. Sort of like at the sale when you know they are stuck on a reserve and start repeating stuff you already know about the horse in the ring. The thing I find odd about it is that people spending around $65k on a stud fee on nice mares usually could care less about what is hyped about a stud and already have a plan in motion. It is a good frame of reference though when you are breeding in the stallions 2nd or 3rd year as to the quality of book he received. But then again at his price you expect it. Hook and Ladder a few years back was an example of how this type of marketing worked, he was a $3,500 stallion that was supported very strongly by his owner and was bound to move up once his horses hit the track, given the quality bred to a low priced stallion. People breeding on a budget looking for a bargain were rewarded when his first crop or two hit the track. Without that boost he would probably been just another low end regional stallion.
They were expecting Big Brown to receive the best book of all the new stallions and have a book that was competitive with the like of A.P. Indy.
The problem is, Henrythenavigator trumped him. Henry is getting many of the mares they expected to go to Big Brown.
I haven't recommended any mares to Big Brown so I'm not sure if they're asking full-fee, but my guess is, probably not.
The problem is, Henrythenavigator trumped him. Henry is getting many of the mares they expected to go to Big Brown.
I haven't recommended any mares to Big Brown so I'm not sure if they're asking full-fee, but my guess is, probably not.
Why was this even a story? Someday she'll be bred to big Brown? Thank You. I guess they got free publicity for their stallion and their filly. I have heard Big Brown is not getting the support they expected. Don't know what they expected. Last I knew they were doing foals shares to top mares a little more freely, but were holding the line on the live foal fee.
I can't decide what's more ridiculous... IEAH's desperate attempt to drum up publicity for a horse who's clearly having problems drawing a full book of mares, or the Blood-Horse's willingness to print the story. Then again, we should never be surprised at how quickly the two major publications suck up to stallion interests.
Rahy85 wrote:I can't decide what's more ridiculous... IEAH's desperate attempt to drum up publicity for a horse who's clearly having problems drawing a full book of mares, or the Blood-Horse's willingness to print the story. Then again, we should never be surprised at how quickly the two major publications suck up to stallion interests.
That isn't a story, it's a press release. So are most of the items you'll see in the Breeding News section - I highly doubt BH has reporters dispatched to find out if so-and-so's first foal had arrived, and so on. However, I would not call it ridiculous at all - I'm sure the space & time they give over to these items is more than offset by the advertising dollars farms & stallion owners provide.
That said, I didn't enjoy reading this....it gave me the impression that if SB so much as sneezes between now & May, it's off to the shed.
The time/space is subsidized by stallion syndicate advertising, which is exactly why the BH should never be trusted as an unbiased source on industry trends/news/economics
You mean it wasn't news the 2nd time in a month that the Bloodhorse let us know that Spendthrift was adding 3 or 4 stallions that will stand for less than $5k?
I want to one day start an Indian Charlie esque website/newsletter that holds no bars. But I have to find a better name to do it under, since my brother wants to kill me after every post I make on this site under AS.