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Early deceased but still surviving sires

Postby Jorge » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:36 pm

Sires who died during their first or second year (aproximate) as sires yet their legacy is still alive.

Can you name them:

01. Lawyer Ron
02. Chester House
03. Free House
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Postby Heidilady » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:23 pm

Saint Liam
George Washington (albeit a lone filly but she was being offered at auction last I saw)

Unfortunately I don't think we can add Drilling for Oil to the list. I don't think he was in Peru more than a few days before he was killed and I bet they were letting him settle in so no breeding prior to the theft.
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Postby freshman » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:24 am

Saint Liam, only one crop from him.
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Postby springboro » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:47 am

Dubai Millenium
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Postby walaa » Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:10 am

Jorge, hi :D Your post on the color forum are always informative, interesting, and polite :D Im just curious, though, what you must be meaning by legacy? I personally wouldnt consider Lawyer Ron, and from another message, St Liam, legacies, until babies are racing and producing, you know? Are you just meaning that they still have a chance to make a legacy? I really liked Lawyer Ron, I hope he does become a Legacy, But I would consider a 1 -2 crop sire like Bold Reasoning, on the strenght of SS alone, a legacy, but not these guys mentioned here so far :)
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Postby springboro » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:33 pm

TILT THE STARS

Sire of 19 foals, 19 starter and 16 winner of 10 races in NA. 5 SWs
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Postby diomed » Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:49 pm

Bold Reasoning.
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Postby Jorge » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:01 pm

walaa wrote:Are you just meaning that they still have a chance to make a legacy?


We can substitute "legacy" here for survival of their names via a normal number of future sons/daughters; grandsons/granddaughters etc.

We are all sadden with their early passing (including Lawyer Ron) and wish all the best to their progeny.
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Postby freshman » Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:53 pm

Saarland was pensioned due to to fertility problems after entering stud in 2005, so only two or three crops from him, not sure of the details with out looking it up. I do recall that he was already out of stallion rotation when earlier this year, when managed to kill himself in a weird pasture accident.
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Postby xfactor fan » Sat Aug 15, 2009 10:54 am

The classic line of horses for this has to be Domino. Two very small foal crops but his blood is in a lot of American pedigrees.
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Postby Shammy Davis » Sat Aug 15, 2009 6:18 pm

xfactor fan posted:
The classic line of horses for this has to be Domino. . .

And his son COMMANDO who only had twenty-seven foals. Luckily, four of the colts were COLIN, PETER PAN, CELT, and unraced Ultimus. All were influential.
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Postby oliverstoned » Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:18 am

Certainly have been alot of "legacy" type sires that went way too early , not one or two years at stud but still way too early. A few that come to mind are Alydar, Dr. Fager and Unbridled.
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Postby Patuxet » Sun Aug 16, 2009 7:38 am

Shergar sired but one crop before he was murdered. Easy Goer sired only 4.
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Postby Taff » Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:46 am

How many did 'Chester House' sire?...the reason I ask is that 'Muhannak' won the BC marathon last year.
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Postby Jorge » Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:09 pm

Let's post the ones whose extension is still not safe enough:

01. Lawyer Ron
02. Chester House
03. Free House
04. George Washington
05. Saint Liam
06. Dubai Millenium
07. Tilt The Stars
08. Saarland
09. Shergar

Let's post the ones with more probability:

01. Bold Reasoning
02. Domino
03. Commando
04. Alydar
05. Dr Fager
06. Easy Goer

Other candidates?
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