Pedigree Query

Any comments good bad or otherwise?

I am looking at a very nice mare in foal to him and just wondered what the appeal and marketability might be for the foal in a strictly race program?

She had 2 wins, minimal earnings, so she wont bring a lot to the table

I am looking at her strictly from a Sport Horse breeding perspective to breed to my stallion

Thanks as always!

From a strictly racing point of view, a foal by Unusual Jedi would have zero value.

I think you'd have a difficult time even giving away that foal to a racing minded person.

Unfortunately I have to agree with Hold Your Peace.

I think I looked at the same mare's ad (because I remember Unusual Jedi's name) & had the same reaction as Hold Your Peace & LB.

I have bought a mare I adored, in foal to a stallion I'd never heard of. Got a GREAT filly, with zero value to a race buyer & only nominal value to a sporthorse buyer (she was big, correct & kind, but in a down economy, that just isn't enough). We sold the filly at auction, got $500 for her. She went to a great home (that's the good news) but didn't cover her auction costs/JC registration/state-bred registration. And will probably be a beloved show horse her whole life, i.e., won't be sending any checks to me for breeders' awards, since her current owner wants to race, but won't ever put her in a claimer because he likes her that much. I figure at best, she'll run 1 or 2 times in maiden special weights & then go be the daughter's show horse. And if this filly likes that life, I like that solution just fine.

She got a great home & is valued for who she is, and we got a great mare. That was the trade-off.

Anyhow, if you like the mare enough to develop a strategy for finding the foal a home, great. But don't expect the foal from the cross to sell itself . . .

I'd like to be more optimistic, but been there, done that - and even a wonderful foal from the cross will need the cost/effort to find it the home it no doubt deserves.

(On a brighter note in my corner of the world - the mare I just described has a colt in a yearling auction this year & is in foal to Canadian Kid for what will probably be a sporthorse foal in 2011. A dilute foal out of this mare is an absolute keeper & if a colt, probably our next stallion. I know some people buy mares because of the foal they are carrying, but we buy mares sometimes despite the foals they are carrying, if we like the mare enough. And then try to find the best situation we can for the foal, so we can get on with our breeding plan.)

Good luck - whatever you decide!

Thanks everyone. You've pretty well confirmed what I was thinking ...

The mare is nice enough to stand on her own merits and since its too late in the year to breed anymore anyhow, the fact she IS in foal already is kind of a bonus as long as the foal will have some value to a Sport Horse person

And like KBEquine said, the first and foremost reason for getting this mare would be to breed her to my stallion down the road, so the foal itself is immaterial in that decision

Thank you again!

My two cents... the foal's due date would be the make-it or break-it for me. Early foal, you can breed back. Late foal you are looking at a baby you can't get rid of and a mare with an empty year....

She's due in May which is perfectly acceptable for me. That allows me part of may (possibly) and all of June to get her bred back. So - crappy from a race perspective, perfectly acceptable for Sport Horse breeding ...

Hey True colors
I think I know which mare that you are interested in She's by a good sire and grandsire is one of a few peoples favorites here. But
Why did they bring an unraced Son to South Dakota? I mean there is a few stallions that are unraced here where I live.. But I dont know. If she is the same mare that Im talking about did you look at how and where she raced?
There are so many questions that I would ask before getting her at a low price.
Karen

Hi Karen

I am looking at her 100% for a Sport Horse breeding program so how and where she raced is almost immaterial to me

If the foal had some race "value" - great - thats a bonus, and if not, if its came out blingy and attractive there would be a market for it in the Sport Horse world Im sure ...

Right now my biggest hurdle is transportation. $1500.00 plus layover costs, plus Coggins and Export papers plus I'd have to go and get her and cross her in Lewistown, NY. I am waiting to hear back from one more company to see how do-able this might be.

Good Luck True!