Pedigree Query

Visiting thoroughbred stallion from New Zealand (raced in Australia) visiting at Hilltop farm for sporthorses, although he first job is as a race horse sire. He is 3X to grey sovereign. He won over a 1 million AUS at different distances. What do you think of his pedigree?

Heroicity LEADING RUNNERS:

=FLYING FREE (NZ) (1995 F, by BEAUFORT SEA) 1st Rotorua S. (Nz).
=MY JASPA (NZ) (1995 F, by =PERSIAN BOLD (IRE)) 1st Siemens Mobile S. (Aus).
=PHEROZITY (NZ) (1995 F, by =BATTLE-WAGGON (GB)) 3rd Churchill S. -G3 (Nz), 3rd
Air N.Z. Challenge S. -G3 (Nz).
BRECHIN CITY (NZ) (1995 G, by =ARCH SCULPTOR (GB)) 3 wins at 5 to 6, $62,635,
in NA. (SSI=3.40).
JONSTAR (NZ) (1998 G, by =JON GEORGE (GB)) 2 wins at 5 to 6, $50,970, in NA.
(SSI=1.78). 3rd Meadow Brook Hurdle S. (R) (N) ($107,600, Bel), Sent
To U.S.A. in 2003.
SUNWORLD (NZ) (1995 G, by SUN AND SHINE (GB)) 2 wins at 4 to 7, $25,020, in NA.
(SSI=2.15). Sent To U.S.A. in 2001.
BLUE ON THE ROCKS (NZ) (1999 G, by =OAK RIDGE (FR)) Winner at 5, $10,540, in
NA. (SSI=.71).
RIGHT ABOUT NOW (NZ) (1996 G, by SOUND REASON) Placed at 8, $1,225, in NA.
(SSI=.27).
=NO HERO (NZ) (1996 G, by =CROWN LEASE (GB)) 1st Hawke's Bay Stp. (N) (Nz).

AS A BROODMARE SIRE

By =HEROICITY (AUST) (1988), black type winner, Bmw Australian Derby -G1,
etc. Sire of 5 crops, 13 foals, 9 starters, 2 black type winners, 4
winners, $150,390, including =Flying Free (Nz) (Rotorua S.), =My Jaspa
(Nz) (Siemens Mobile S.), =No Hero (Nz) (Hawke's Bay Stp. -N), Jonstar
(Nz) ($50,970, 3rd Meadow Brook Hurdle S. (R) -N), =Pherozity (Nz) (3rd
Churchill S. -G3, etc), Brechin City (Nz) ($62,635), Sunworld (Nz)
($25,020).


In The Stud - =HEROICITY (AUS), 1988

--------By Crops (All Seasons)--------- Seasons (All Crops)
Wnrs $ Crop Av Per Wnrs
Yr Fls Rnrs (Sws) Earnings Rnr Yr (Wins) Earnings
=====================================================================

1995 8 2 2( 2) 87,655 43,828 1999 1( 1) 14,400
1996 2 1 0( 0) 1,225 1,225 2000 1( 2) 44,205
1997 1 0 0( 0) 0 0 2001 1( 1) 21,550
1998 1 1 1( 0) 50,970 50,970 2002 1( 1) 7,500
1999 1 1 1( 0) 10,540 10,540 2003 1( 1) 23,510
2000 0 0 0( 0) 0 0 2004 2( 2) 39,225


Sire Summary

5 Crops Lifetime Current
Starters (/Foals) 38% 0%
Winners (/Foals) 31% 0%
Winners (/Starters) 80% 0%

Total Starts 38 0
Total Wins (/Starts) 21% 0%

Total Earnings $150,390 $0
Ave Earnings/Starter $30,078 $0
Ave Earnings/Start $3,958 $0
Median Earnings $50,970 $0

Blacktype Wnrs(/Foals) 15% 0%
Blacktype Wnrs(/Strs) 40% 0%
Blacktype Horses(/Foals) 23% 0%
Blacktype Horses(/Strs) 60% 0%

Sup Runners (/Foals) 0% 0%
Sup Runners (/Startrs) 0% 0%

Ave # Years Raced 2.00 0.00
Ave Starts/Year 3.80 1.00

All Foals Colts Fillies
Sire Production Index 1.66 1.66 0.00

ok, took a long look at his pedigree. I think that his dam side is VERY weak... This is a very nice horse that outran his pedigree.
I hate copy and paste but here it is....

HEROICITY'S RACE RECORD:
1991 1st Melvista S. (Aus)
1991 1st J C Roberts Quality S. -G3 (Aus)
1991 1st Bmw Australian Derby -G1 (Aus)
1992 1st The Bmw -G1 (Aus)
1992 1st West Australian Derby -G2 (Aus)
1993 1st Farnley Quality S. (Aus)
1992 2nd Caulfield S. -G1 (Aus)
1993 2nd Helena Vale Cup (Aus)
1992 3rd Hobartville S. -G2 (Aus)


By CHERAW (IRE ) (1973), black type winner at Winner at 5, $36,325. Sire
of 10 crops, 31 foals, 29 starters, 12 black type winners, $16,675,
including =Corso Plus (Aust ) (Titan Ford Belmont Park Cup, etc), =The
Bukhra (Aust ) (W.A.T.C. Western Australian Derby -G1, etc), =Cheridge
(Aust ) (Sheila Gwynne Quality S., etc), =Lady Of Battle (Aust ) (W.A.
Champion Fillies S. -G2, etc), =Belele (Aust ) (Watc West Australian
Derby -G1, etc).


By =WOLVERTON (IRE ) (1976), black type winner at Winner at 4, $33,222.
Sire of 6 crops, 27 foals, 22 starters, 8 black type winners, $1,962,
including =Wolverton Mountain (Nz ) (Morphettville Plate), =Wolvette
(Nz ) (Bloodhorse Breeders' Plate -G2, etc), =Wolveraction (Nz )
(Escort Cup -G3, etc), =Marmalitre (Nz ) (South Australian Oaks -G1),
=Lady Have A Heart (Nz ) (Benson & Hedges Hobart Cup -G3, etc),
=Benbara King (Nz ) (Merv Brown Moondah Plate, etc).


FEMALE FAMILY:


1ST DAM
=FLEETING WORLD (NZ), by Wolverton. Unraced. Dam of 1 foal--
HEROICITY (c. by Cheraw-IRE). Black type winner, see records.

2ND DAM
BYGONE, by Busted. Foreign, won Houghton S. Dam of 6 foals, 1 to race.
Regal Dance (f. by Vice Regal). Foreign, 2nd Gimcrack S. [ G3 ] (Aus),
Widden S. (Aus). Dam of--
Regal Curator (g. by Zephyr Zip). Foreign, 2nd Razor Sharp H. (Aus),
3rd Star Kingdom S. [ G3 ] (Aus).
Zamareign (f. by Zamazaan). Unraced. Dam of 2 winners--
MEZMERIZE (f. by Marceau). Foreign, won J Swap Contractors Ltd Matamata
Cup (Nz), 2nd Liverpool City Cup [ G3 ] (Aus), Belle Of The Turf S.
(Aus), J Swap Contractors Ltd Matamata Cup (Nz).
MOUNTAIN RULE (g. by Wolverton). Foreign, won P. J. O'shea S. [ G2 ]
(Aus), 2nd Labour Day Cup (Aus), 3rd A.J.C. Derby [ G1 ] (Aus),
Brisbane Cup [ G1 ] (Aus), Coongy H. [ G3 ] (Aus).
Melos. Foreign, 3rd Yalumba Hurdle [N] (Aus).
Bella Lunar. Unraced. Dam of MOONRISE (c. by Shalford) Foreign, won
Belmont Park Cup (Aus), 2nd Swan Draught Anniversary Cup (Aus), 3rd
Perth Cup [ G2 ] (Aus).
In The Pink. Unraced. Dam of Acee Deecee (g. by Kashani) Foreign, 3rd
A.R. Creswick S. (Aus).
Inhabitant (f. by Zamazaan). Unraced. Dam of 2 winners--
CRYSTAL BROOK (f. by Star Way). Foreign, won Otago Breeders Champagne
S. (Nz).
KIM KIM II (c. by Lucky Ring-IRE). Foreign, won Penang Sprint Trophy
(Mal), 3rd Raffles Cup (Mal).
Lyrical (f. by Abwah). Unraced. Dam of--
Tri Lyric. Unraced. Dam of MY MO RALLY (f. by Mi Preferido) Foreign,
won South Island 3yo Championship S. (Nz).
Northern Melody. Unraced. Dam of Jan Valachi (f. by Kingdom Bay)
Foreign, 2nd White Robe Lodge H. [ G3 ] (Nz), Canterbury Breeders S.
(Nz).
Sacramento Song. Unraced. Dam of Sacra Clause (g. by Weasel Clause)
Foreign, 3rd Metropolitan H. (Aus).

3RD DAM
=BYBLIS (GB), by Grey Sovereign. Unraced. Dam of 9 foals, 1 winner--
BYGONE. Black type winner, see above.
Byrial. Sent To England, Sent To Hungary.
Pat Pending. Sent To Greece.
Great Guns. Unraced. Dam of 5 winners, including--
HOME ON THE RANGE. 5 wins at 3 in UK, $77,973, Sun Chariot S. -G2. Dam
of REFERENCE POINT (Champion 2yo In England, Champion 3yo In France,
Champion 3yo In England; 7 wins at 2 and 3 in UK, $1,252,981,
William Hill Futurity S. [ G1 ], etc), Known Ranger (GB) (15 wins, 5
to 11 in NA, $330,459, 2nd Kelso Handicap [ G3 ], etc., Sent To Usa,
Ecr/Ear Bel 8.00f 1 32 2 (T); 4 wins at 3 in UK, $53,628).
Niamh Cinn Oir. 2 wins at 3 in UK, $11,673, 3rd Saval Beg S. Producer.
Bulbul. Unraced. Dam of--
Buxus. Foreign, 3rd Menesek Nagydija [N] (Hun).
Bongo. Unraced. Granddam of Bridzs (Hwt Older Horse In Hungary 11-14 F,
Hwt Older Horse In Hungary 9.5-11f; Foreign, won Lovaregyleti Dij
[N] (Hun), etc), Bed Boy (Foreign, won Alagi Dij [N] (Hun), 3rd
Trial-Stakes (Ata)).

4TH DAM
=NIOBE (GB), by Caracalla. Unraced. Half-sister to GREEK JUSTICE, PHAETONIA,
ARC-EN-CIEL, PUGILIST. Dam of 9 foals, 1 to race.
Charmed Life. In UK, 3rd Free H. Dam of--
Town Life. Foreign, 3rd Queen Anne S.
Vauchellor. Unraced. Dam of 1 winner--
PRINCE DE GALLES. In UK, won Cambridgeshire H., etc.; In France, 2nd
Prix Du Palais Royal. Sire.
Brioche. Foreign, 2nd Land Of Burns S. Sire.
Polar Myth. Unraced. Dam of 1 winner--
CRISP AND EVEN. Foreign, won Warren S., Prix Du Tremblay, 2nd Prix Du
Conseil Municipal, 3rd King Edward 7th S. Sire.
Mythic. In UK, 3rd Galtres S., Princess Elizabeth S.
Polar Legend. Foreign, 3rd St. James's S.
Banchory. Unraced. Granddam of Atrevete (Foreign, 2nd Pr Presidente De
La Republica [ G2 ] (Per), 3rd Cl La Copa -G1 (Per)).
Persona Grata. Unraced. Dam of 1 winner--
Long Till. Foreign, 2nd Horris Hill S., Derby Trial S., 3rd Royal S.
*Gypsy Forecast. Winner at 4, $15,690, Sent To Venezuela. Dam of LADY
YORK (Foreign, won Pr Ministerio De Hacienda (Ven), 2nd Pr Andres
Eloy Blanco (Ven)).
Bienvenida. Unraced. Producer. Granddam of MURMULLO (Foreign, won Pr
Verao (Brz)).

Lovely natured stallion,left it. Did not have the Grey Sovereign nature.
Good race horse. What his pedigree was looking for, sorta had died out in NZ. Probably would have in the UK. Some of NZ TB mare's are being used for breeding sport horse. Most of his black type horses where fillies.

Hallo,
when I read the name Phaetonia in the damline of abovementioned sire, I immediately remember edAggressor. He is the damsire of the top German race horse and stallion Acatenango (by Surumu). Another interesting feature in Phaetusa is she the carried the wellknown Nearco/Hyperion nick.

Btw, it's the same damline of Reference Point (by Mill Reef). Sadly he died only 7 years old.

Best regards, Bettina

Great to see that he is being a chance over there. He was definitely one of my favourites when racing.

As Kiwi said there was not a lot in interest in him over here after his first few seasons at stud.

He was certainly a tough race horse especially during his three year old campaign. Started 13 times between October and May for seven wins including the prestigious BMW 2400m WFA. He then travelled back to Western Australia and won the G1 WA Derby three weeks later.

He raced well in Melbourne as an early four year old but never did win another major.

His sire, CHERAW, started his stud career at El Rancho Murrieta in California, having been raced by Charlie Whittingham for several years in the U.S. I almost bought a share in him, being a great fan of the Grey Sovereign line, but when I inspected him, found that he had inherited the nasty temperament usually associated with this line. That was enough to turn me off him. Apparently the syndication effort didn't materialize, as he was exported to Australia shortly thereafter. Several years later another Grey Sovereign line horse, ADRAAN, stopped over for a few races in the states. He showed much greater early speed and class than Cheraw and would have made an indellible impression on California breeding had he stayed. Once again, the sharp Aussies picked him up and before his premature death there, did prove to be an excellent stallion.

Heroicity's wins in Western Australia caught my eye and I always hoped he would prove worthy of the sire line. Now it seems he's in the U.S., proving again how small the horse world has become.

Other factors jibing, Heroicity could be very good for mares with Olden Times, Ahonoora, and Ahonoora's son Indian Ridge.

Olden Times should really like the combo of War Relic inbreeding in the sire and Caracalla (by Tourbillon, the whom Olden Time's dam is inbred very closely) inbreeding in the sire.

Ahonoora likes War Relic for reasons related to that stallion's inbreeding to Rock Sand and his best son (Indian Ridge) has none other than Grey Sovereign as 3rd damsire. Also of course, the Caracalla inbreeding in the dam of Heroicity ties into Ahonoora's Djebel male line as both Caracalla and Djebel were outstanding running sons of the great French stallion Tourbillon.

Well worth noting that Indian Ridge and Wolver Hollow have combined close up in winner Compton Place, a winner of the highly prestigious July Cup (GI).

Also, a quick check of the PQ shows only 2 examples of crossing Ahonoora and Heroicity's sire Cheraw (probably a few are outside the database though given that Ahonoora stood down there for about four or five years if a recall correctly) and one (Azabu Park) is GI Placed SW in South Africa.

Not bad at all...

-llbean

Cheraw did OK in Western Australia given the quality of broodmare sent to him.

He sired three WA Derby winners during his ten years at stud plus around 13 other black type winners. One of these winners, Belele, stood at stud over there for ten years up to 1999 and did not disgrace himself considering the broodmares.

Usually the Grey Sovereign lines likes the #1 of Black Jester & relations.
Heroicity two SW fillies carried Laughter (Signal Light) 3/4 sister to Black Jester. About the only time it worked in New Zealand.

When you consider the pedigrees of the likes of Adraan, Cheraw etc and look at the pedigrees of successful Australian based sires Rory's Jester, Canny Lad, Kenmare, etc, it makes me think if a horse like In Excess wouldn't have done a job in Australia.