Pedigree Query

I am a big fan of Candy Ride but shy away from breeding to him because of potential foot problems. I would be interested to know if anyone has seen his son Sidney's Candy and would like to hear your views on him.

Alas, I cannot comment on Sidney's Candy per se but
seems like some of the other Candys are experiencing
similar hardships. I am particularly thinking on this one:

http://www.pedigreequery.com/holy+candy

I like him and the half dozen of his foals that I have seen. He was a brilliant racehorse - I am breeding one of my own mares to him.

Regarding the Candy Ride feet, he does have small feet and for that reason I stayed away from him when he first went to stud. However I have not seen that with any frequency among his offspring and therefore am no longer worried about it.

I wonder if given that foot "problem" maybe crossing him with mares by the enormous feet carrier and producer K. Derby winner Giacomo may be a good idea.

You can have a foot problem that's simply the result of a way the foot grows or maybe it doesn't grow much at all. Just like we can have a nail that no matter how long we grow it will always break, their feet can do the same thing. I would think feet problem would be the "least" of all the genetic issues that are passed on as your farrier can do a lot more with the feet than he can with an offset knee.

Tappiano wrote:You can have a foot problem that's simply the result of a way the foot grows or maybe it doesn't grow much at all. Just like we can have a nail that no matter how long we grow it will always break, their feet can do the same thing. I would think feet problem would be the "least" of all the genetic issues that are passed on as your farrier can do a lot more with the feet than he can with an offset knee.

Agree with you,I'd rather have a small but nicely concave and well shaped feet than big flat feet which are prone to bruising, of course a bigger well shaped ones would be more desirable

His feet scared me away from breeding to him. However, I did breed two mares to another Candy Ride son, MISREMEMBERED, and am over the top with the foals. Im going back for seconds on this horse, who I consider a real sleeper. He is a much bigger, much more correct horse with much bigger feet than either Candy Ride or Sidney's Candy, and I think his sales yearlings will surprise, if my two foals are any indication.

Hi Barc, I agree that Misremembered is a bigger, scopier horse than either his sire or Sidney's Candy, but I would not call him correct. I worry that his front end could be passed on and therefore influence the sales appeal of his progeny. He certainly has the body and scope you want and has as good a chance as any to sire quality racehorses.

You make a good point about Sidney's Candy, I think one needs to breed mares with size to him as he is 15.3/16 hands. The mare I am breeding is a 16.2 Theatrical mare - hoping she provides a little size and scope and that Sidney will provide a bit of power and balance.

Congrats on your nice foals and best of luck with them.

hossman,

Im swamped but will try to post pics of my two Misremembered foals. The first one, out of a Stormy Atlantic mare, is absolutely perfect. He couldnt be more correct, but then again his dam, Stormy April, is very correct, too. Misremember sure isnt perfect up front but compared to his sire and most of his offspring I'd say he's a huge improvement over them. He's about 16.3, which the Quack probably contributed a lot to.

My Scat Daddy colt is another awesome specimen. I'd breed her back to him but have finally had enough of the Ashford machine.

Barcaldine wrote:hossman,

Im swamped but will try to post pics of my two Misremembered foals. The first one, out of a Stormy Atlantic mare, is absolutely perfect. He couldnt be more correct, but then again his dam, Stormy April, is very correct, too. Misremember sure isnt perfect up front but compared to his sire and most of his offspring I'd say he's a huge improvement over them. He's about 16.3, which the Quack probably contributed a lot to.

My Scat Daddy colt is another awesome specimen. I'd breed her back to him but have finally had enough of the Ashford machine.

You have five or six foals coming by their sires this year? That's a pretty large % of your overall crop. They didn't offer you any deals to go back?

They offered great deals. Hansen for $6000, Munnings for $5000, etc. It wasnt the deals, per se, that drove me from Ashford, it's their unabashed disrespect for the yearling market that they flood, their untamed lies about book sizes and fertility, and their arrogance.

Further, I am becoming a little sick of carpetbaggers invading America, not employing Americans, and taking our money back home.

Barcaldine wrote:Further, I am becoming a little sick of carpetbaggers invading America, not employing Americans, and taking our money back home.

Is calling people (non Americans) carpetbaggers not racist or is this just American Patriotism??

Carpetbaggers? Strange rhetoric from a Californian.