One little gray colt just punched his ticket to studdum today.
Since he won the Derby, what kind of fee do you think Giacomo could command at stud? I don't see a lot of "familiar/common" names in his pedigree at all (no Mr. P, Northern Dancer, etc) and I know that Holy Bull doesn't command a big fee. Plus, Giacomo hasn't won a lot else up to this point. BUT he did win the Derby- and I'm thinking that pretty much seals a deal.
If he never won another race in his life (a la Monarchos) what kind of fee might he get and how fast do you think a stallion farm would want to grab him?
Giacomo in his Second Career
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StrawberryFelidos
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Re: Giacomo in his Second Career
StrawberryFelidos wrote:what kind of fee might he get and how fast do you think a stallion farm would want to grab him?
Not much and not very.
A Derby win does not a stud make, especially when he comes from such a quiet line with little to no commercial value.
Holy Bull isn't much of a sire, isn't commanding much of a fee and there's little demand for a son of his at stud.
Personally I reckon Darley will buy him (they have a thing for sons of their studs standing alongside 
) & tops $30k even if he wins another Gr1. For me he just doesn't have the consistency (Holy Bull) to be a good sire of sires year in year out like some, and a couple big horses gets you noticed but by no way wholly in the 'big time'... as a side note I do see Macho Uno filling up- no change to fee - and Holy Bull going to somewhere around the $20-30k mark.
***I may be - and probably will be- TOTALLY wrong***
) & tops $30k even if he wins another Gr1. For me he just doesn't have the consistency (Holy Bull) to be a good sire of sires year in year out like some, and a couple big horses gets you noticed but by no way wholly in the 'big time'... as a side note I do see Macho Uno filling up- no change to fee - and Holy Bull going to somewhere around the $20-30k mark.
***I may be - and probably will be- TOTALLY wrong***
Come on you guys....let history repeat itself...I think Taylor Made should run right out and buy Holy Bull...offer them a ridiculous amount of money and then claim he just wasn't bred to the right mares!!! Then 4 years from now we can all breed to him cheaper!!!We've all seen the ads...he has done it before...he can do it again!!! laugh! laugh!!!
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Ahhhh, a Derby winner without high stud value- can it be true? 
Dare I even dream of another Derby winner coming back as a four-year-old?
Somehow it sounds too good to be true. I don't think it can last.
But just invision it:
Funny Cide vs. Giacomo. Maybe not the greatest match-up in history, but historical nonethtless. Puzzle out who would win that one!
I once dreamed of Smarty Jones vs. Funny Cide, but this would do.
Dare I even dream of another Derby winner coming back as a four-year-old?
Somehow it sounds too good to be true. I don't think it can last.
But just invision it:
Funny Cide vs. Giacomo. Maybe not the greatest match-up in history, but historical nonethtless. Puzzle out who would win that one!
I once dreamed of Smarty Jones vs. Funny Cide, but this would do.