Checking the Father
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Checking the Father
Does it happen where the mare is sent to the wrong Stallion, how do you check if your mare has been covered by the right stallion, what precautions are taken ?
I usually watch my mares being bred, so no, I've never suspected that my mares was bred to the wrong stallion. At some busy barns, a tag with the stallion's name on it is hung on the mare's halter as soon as she arrives to make sure there aren't any slip-ups.
If a mare was bred to the wrong stallion, DNA testing would reveal that when the foal was JC registered.
If a mare was bred to the wrong stallion, DNA testing would reveal that when the foal was JC registered.
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mary syers
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Wrong Stallion
Back in the 70's a chestnut colt by Fleet Nasrullah was sold I think at the summer select F-T sales. It wasn't until afterwards that somebody commented that Fleet Nasrullah was a double dominant bay--he couldn't throw a chestnut. They tried DNA testing on a couple of other Spendthrift stallions, but never figured out, at least publically, who the sire was. They cancelled the registration and gave the money back. At the time, Spendthrift was one of the few farms that video taped their breeding shed. So it can happen, even at the best farms, with the best precautions. Mary Syers
All foals must be DNA tested during the registration process. If there is something amiss, it will be found then.
As for the foal looking more like another stallion, perhaps there is some commonality in the pedigree. Of course, foals change so much and so dramatically that it isn't unusual for them to look like several different horses during different phases. It also isn't terribly unusual for them to bear little direct resemblance to their sire or dam until they get older, sometimes never.
I have tried repeatedly to get a mare covered by a wrong stallion... say, Storm Cat or Gone West... but it just doesn't seem to be working.
There are often jokes about mysterious unauthorized moonlight pasture breedings, but they are only jokes... the DNA tests don't have the same sense of humor or intigue.
As for the foal looking more like another stallion, perhaps there is some commonality in the pedigree. Of course, foals change so much and so dramatically that it isn't unusual for them to look like several different horses during different phases. It also isn't terribly unusual for them to bear little direct resemblance to their sire or dam until they get older, sometimes never.
I have tried repeatedly to get a mare covered by a wrong stallion... say, Storm Cat or Gone West... but it just doesn't seem to be working.
There are often jokes about mysterious unauthorized moonlight pasture breedings, but they are only jokes... the DNA tests don't have the same sense of humor or intigue.
KAL wrote:I have tried repeatedly to get a mare covered by a wrong stallion... say, Storm Cat or Gone West... but it just doesn't seem to be working.
HAHAHA Guess that's the "hook" that got you to send a mare to that farm?
KAL wrote:There are often jokes about mysterious unauthorized moonlight pasture breedings, but they are only jokes... the DNA tests don't have the same sense of humor or intigue.
Yup! I met the owners of Amazing Philly when I was at Saratoga earlier this week... interestingly, the Jockey Club failed to ever discover which colt at the sale was the "moonlight casanova" -- I think maybe not because they couldn't, but because they wouldn't.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....
Yup! I met the owners of Amazing Philly when I was at Saratoga earlier this week... interestingly, the Jockey Club failed to ever discover which colt at the sale was the "moonlight casanova" -- I think maybe not because they couldn't, but because they wouldn't.
Yeah, that is one that I never could figure out either. It seems that they since they have the DNA of every possible suspect and they have the DNA from the filly... that they should be able to find the "culprit". Personally, I think I would start with every colt from the sale that was owned or connected to a Jockey Club executive or board member. [/code]
