Just read that Lion Heart bred 233 mares in 2005! Other stallions breeding over 200 mares (all Ashford, of course) are Chapel Royale (222), Giant's Causeway (215), and Fusaichi Pegasus (213). In-sane!
Others with big numbers: Monashee Mountain (194), Johannesburg (190), Medaglia D'Oro (184), Tale of the Cat (179), Malibu Moon (174), Candy Ride (170) and Peace Rules (170).
wow. Ashford continues to outdo itself, eh?
I think Malibu Moon is about to have more offspring from one crop than he's had so far from his entire career!
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Re: Mares bred in 2005- w-o-w
ef wrote:Just read that Lion Heart bred 233 mares in 2005! Other stallions breeding over 200 mares (all Ashford, of course) are Chapel Royale (222), Giant's Causeway (215), and Fusaichi Pegasus (213). In-sane!
Others with big numbers: Monashee Mountain (194), Johannesburg (190), Medaglia D'Oro (184), Tale of the Cat (179), Malibu Moon (174), Candy Ride (170) and Peace Rules (170).
wow. Ashford continues to outdo itself, eh?
I think Malibu Moon is about to have more offspring from one crop than he's had so far from his entire career!
And please take note that these numbers DO NOT INCLUDE the Southern Hemisphere breedings. Fusaichi Pegasus' numbers for 2004 were over 350.
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GC didn't shuttle this year as he was in need of a break according to Ashford. I don't know if they have totally kiboshed shuttling him or if this was a one year thing.
While we're on the subject of huge books how about a little abuse for Hill N Dale? They're well represented on that list.
While we're on the subject of huge books how about a little abuse for Hill N Dale? They're well represented on that list.
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I would rather breed 50 of the best quality mares to a leading stalliion than and extra 150 mares of no account.
Those 50 mares would match the best superior runners of the stallions that were bred to 200 + mares.
The stallions that are pulling double duty Northern and Southern Hemisphere will be burned out double time.
When you use up a stallions reserves he will hit the wall. Shame Shame on those greedy stallion owners.
Those 50 mares would match the best superior runners of the stallions that were bred to 200 + mares.
The stallions that are pulling double duty Northern and Southern Hemisphere will be burned out double time.
When you use up a stallions reserves he will hit the wall. Shame Shame on those greedy stallion owners.
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louis finochio wrote:
When you use up a stallions reserves he will hit the wall. Shame Shame on those greedy stallion owners.
The key here Louis is not greedy Stallion Owners that are horsemen.The key is greedy businessmen that have no care for the thoroughbred industry whatsoever except for the fact that they want to line their own pocketbooks.
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Regarding your critical comments pertaining to the connections that allow their stallions to breed HUGE books of mares...some in excess of 200 (examples as reported by ef: Lion Heart 233...Chapel Royal 222...Giant's Causeway 215...Fusaichi Pegasus 213) and those are northern hemisphere figures only...
...I'd like to hear what anyone (including reps from Coolmore/Ashford where those four stand) that might disagree with your perspective, might have to say in support of the decision to cover such HUGE northern hemisphere books.
Best to you.
Respectfully
Regarding your critical comments pertaining to the connections that allow their stallions to breed HUGE books of mares...some in excess of 200 (examples as reported by ef: Lion Heart 233...Chapel Royal 222...Giant's Causeway 215...Fusaichi Pegasus 213) and those are northern hemisphere figures only...
...I'd like to hear what anyone (including reps from Coolmore/Ashford where those four stand) that might disagree with your perspective, might have to say in support of the decision to cover such HUGE northern hemisphere books.
Best to you.
Respectfully
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I've considerd the mentality of the stud farm and this is what I think they envision:
By selling a lot of stallion seasons, you can make a lot of money, and thereby buy a lot of stuff. Stuff=good, sperm=money, horse=factory.
I think that's basically the idea. It has its faults, like: what are you going to do with all those unwanted horses you'll get in a few years? and: what does this do to the stallion's overall health? but none of these problems really bother them. The babies aren't theirs, they won't have to deal with them, and if the stud has a heart attack at 10, well, he's probably worn out his welcome, anyway. Breeders are always looking for fresh prospects- so get a new stud and book him to 300 mares!
There is no end to this cash fountain (ahem) as long as there are mares to be bred.
Until they stop making money off of the practice (ie: people stop giving them mares) this issue won't stop because there's not much downside for the stud farm.
By selling a lot of stallion seasons, you can make a lot of money, and thereby buy a lot of stuff. Stuff=good, sperm=money, horse=factory.
I think that's basically the idea. It has its faults, like: what are you going to do with all those unwanted horses you'll get in a few years? and: what does this do to the stallion's overall health? but none of these problems really bother them. The babies aren't theirs, they won't have to deal with them, and if the stud has a heart attack at 10, well, he's probably worn out his welcome, anyway. Breeders are always looking for fresh prospects- so get a new stud and book him to 300 mares!
There is no end to this cash fountain (ahem) as long as there are mares to be bred.
Until they stop making money off of the practice (ie: people stop giving them mares) this issue won't stop because there's not much downside for the stud farm.
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Not only is it a money thing, but when Lion Heart's first 2 year old run, he'll have at least twice the number of horses running compared to his competitors. Thus, he has a better chance of being the top first year sire. That's why it makes Successfull Appeals dominance last year so much more rewarding seeing he had so few runners compared to GC and FuPeg.
Stallion books need to be limited to keep the playing field somewhat level.
As for GC not shuttling, my personal opinion was so that his sons would have a better start at stud. However, there are some saying it's an insurance thing.
Stallion books need to be limited to keep the playing field somewhat level.
As for GC not shuttling, my personal opinion was so that his sons would have a better start at stud. However, there are some saying it's an insurance thing.
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