Pollard's Vision = Good Choice?

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Pollard's Vision = Good Choice?

Postby tbrace » Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:06 pm

How do you all see Pollard's Vision as a choice of new sires? He was a big hearted, honest race horse, for sure. I will appreciate your opinions.

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Pollard's vision

Postby tbrace » Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:05 pm

Anyone seen Pollard's Vision? Does anyone have thoughts on what kind of sire he will make? Thanks for your opinions.

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Re: Pollard's vision

Postby horsenuts » Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:00 pm

tbrace wrote:Anyone seen Pollard's Vision? Does anyone have thoughts on what kind of sire he will make? Thanks for your opinions.


Any unproven stallion is a big risk. The majority(over 75%)are deemed as failures(though that is somewhat subjective)as there stud fees decrease rather than increase. Any new stud is FAR more hype/style than substance until proven otherwise.

Carson City has not shown to be a true "sire-of-sire" though City Zip is off to a good start and Five Star Day has had some winers in hs freshman crop as well. Good and Tough is a decent New York stallion. Lord Carson has had a few runners as well.

As for PV he could run a 1 1/8 and was very competitive when doing so which is rather rare for most Carson City's. He rarely ran a bad race and usually made a good showing. He is a decent looking horse based on his picture in the blood horse and if 15.3 is correct is big enough. I'd prefer he had a bit more length to his neck but pictures can be deceiving. He appears to have a good deal of leg and fairly correct in front and back from what one can see(which isn't all that much witha side shot. He also has a pretty strong bottom side which is a plus.

Bottom line: $10,000 is a good deal of money for any unproven sire. For that price range you can breed to proven sires or unproven sires that have shown to be hot commercially i.e Yankee Gentleman. I'd have to shop hard and heavy before committing to PV for $10,000 and then I'd see if I could get them down to around $7,500 before signing a contract for $10,000.

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Postby austique » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:48 am

horsenuts,

He looks way better in his video on Thoroughbred Times. Almost wouldn't look like the same horse if it wasn't for the eye :wink:
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Postby Derby2004 » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:18 am

I spoke with Wintergreen and they said that PV is taller than most Carson Citys. I think he takes after him female line given hes taller and could o farther distances than other carsons. But his book is also 70% full, so if you want to act on him, do it now.

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Postby horsenuts » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:33 am

Derby2004 wrote:I spoke with Wintergreen and they said that PV is taller than most Carson Citys. I think he takes after him female line given hes taller and could o farther distances than other carsons. But his book is also 70% full, so if you want to act on him, do it now.


Book full? What is a "book full" at Wintergreen? Is it like Ashford where "book full" is 200-250 mares(in Northern Hemisphere only of course)? Or is "book full" 60-75 mares(which is a big plenty)..... but quickly becoming a thing of the past.

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Postby Derby2004 » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:43 am

Who knows. Maybe they will make his babies a hotter commodity by breeding to fewer mares.