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Chapel Royal

Postby Derby2004 » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:23 am

I was speaking with Andre at Ashford and he stated that by the end of next week, Chapel Royals book will be closed. He said they have never had a sire that has had a book closed that fast for a second year stud. But my thing is what kind of quality is he getting? Sure he might breed 200 mares, but if none are worth a damn, whats the point?

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Postby Intrinsic Worth » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:34 am

With Ashford, it's never been about quality, it's about quantity. The more offspring he has out there to race and earn money, the greater the chance that he'll be higher up on sires lists.
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Postby Derby2004 » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:40 am

Things like that just dont make sense. It seem you would want a stallion that could get a G1 winner from 30 or 40 babies versus 100 or 150. It would be more appealing to the breeder. Thats the whole fascination with Successful Appeal. It would also save time and money for the farm to put in regulations as to what kind of mare to breed. Also pedigree consulting wouldnt hurt them. That would help the inflated numebrs offered at the yearling sales and help boosts the average at the sales. They are breeding glorified claimers to theses stallions that have all of the potential in the world that could be dominant studs. but when you look at stats of these studs, the numbers are misleading by how many foals they have.

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Postby Intrinsic Worth » Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:56 am

It's all about money. They don't care if the stallion ends up being a dud, they still have gotten a lot of money out of him.
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Postby austique » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:46 pm

The horse will be a superstar until his second or third crop hits the track. Their stallions always look like superstars in their first year just due to shear numbers, but when they hit two or three crops and the percentages start to become more important people realize the horse isn't a good gamble unless its Giant's Causeway or FuPeg. It makes you wonder about stallions like Thunder Gulch and what he might have done with a more selective book.
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Postby Intrinsic Worth » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:12 pm

If Fupeg can't sire a classic distance son or daughter next year, he's going to have a hard time making it at Ashford.
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Postby LSB » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:16 pm

Many of the stallions' books are closing early this year. If Chapel Royal is the only one at Ashford that they're close to filling then I'd say they must be lagging a little behind some of the other farms--even considering the huge numbers of mares that they accept.

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Postby henthorn » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:28 pm

Chapel Royal is a beautiful sprinter, and by Montbrook, so an outcross for most mares, and at a reasonable price. I can see why he was so popular with mare owners.
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