Pedigree Query

Lets say you have a mare throwing beautiful horses with exceptional body... only "stumpy-legged". Who would you suggest breeding to (cost is no object) that could possibly throw a leggy-type foal.

Storm Cat line is out... Forestry and the like have been tested, and failed to produce a long legged foal. Again, the foals she has thrown have incredible shoulder, rear end, strong... the body is a perfect 10. The legs are short.

Thanks for the suggestions...

What about a Pleasant Colony line foal? Dynaformer? Holy Bull or Skip Away? Tiznow comes to mind as well. Unfortunately there are varying degrees of commercial here (or not at all commercial as the case may be) and some more established sires than others.

Great idea ak1... my only fear would be that we tried and failed with FORESTRY... which is by SHARED INTEREST, a Pleasant Colony mare. I happen to really like DYNAFORMER too.

The Include offspring is reported to be off the ground though I have not yet seen. He himself is 16.1 advertised height. Locally, I have seen a few of the Mr. Broad Blade 2-yr-olds, they are definitely tall, leggy individuals.

What about Quiet American? He doesn't have eye appeal, but gets correct, durable foals. He has good physical type for the mare that needs size and substance. Son of Fappiano. Stands at Gainsborough in KY...$20,000 fee. His foals sell from low end to top end and my guess it's the mare that dedicate these prices. Hope this helps.

Happy wrote:What about Quiet American? He doesn't have eye appeal, but gets correct, durable foals. He has good physical type for the mare that needs size and substance. Son of Fappiano. Stands at Gainsborough in KY...$20,000 fee. His foals sell from low end to top end and my guess it's the mare that dedicate these prices. Hope this helps.

I don't know if this would be a good one or not. I just saw a picture of one of his mares and although she was powerfully built, she didn't seem to have the height to her. But, it may have been the picture. I guess a call to the farm would be your best bet if he is one that you would consider for your mare. Sorry for the confusion, I was just trying to help.

I have met Quiet American. He is a sweetheart. And the sire of a Derby winner.

the tiznow foals are all pretty leggy. i think dynaformer and tiznow are worth considering...

Agreed on Fappiano & Quiet American & when I think leggy as far as station goes I think Unbridled & many sons of esp Unbridled Songs. Most are very beautiful bodied big horses as well just usualy being light boned which of course comes with being tall means many are very unsound with the big body on a light frame. I think ability comes into play as a major issue in unsound horses as well as a fast racehorse no matter how he is conformed is usually a candiate for many phyical problems & many slow horses no matter their phyical setback run for years. Just my common sense thoughts as I think alot of times we overthink good ideas in all aspects of our sport rather it be placement, breeding or even handicapping.

hi dray! hope you get lots of ideas to chat with your partners about. given your fondness for forestry, which side of his pedigree does he throw to? if he is throwing more to the storm cat side of his pedigree, a son of pleasant colony might be different (pleasant tap, pleasantly perfect). how does her baby compare to behrens in terms of build?

my other thought after i posted was if your mare (assuming queen mama?) is throwing the blocky northern dancer type build and the only thing missing is leg length, that maybe a goal could be a better balance in a mate (ie not necessarily larger) but perhaps say, rahy, well balanced in a smaller package.

you may have some interesting stallion choices in a regional market too....two punch for instance.

so many choices and so much fun to chat about!

If your mare is correct and the pedigree matches (not knowing her name) I would go with Unbridled's Song. He's hugely commercial, sires excellent race horses, and throws size to spare. Of course soundness is always a concern but if she's throwing correct foals, its worth a chance.

i agree with Eap and TomFool... Unbridled's song might be a good match

This horse has some leg under him.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/tomahawk6

for sure the Unbridled line! My Unbridled stud (Perfect Circle) is 17.1 and growing!

If cost is not important, or not a factor, why not consider A.P. Indy?

I've found the foals will usually take after their dams in this area; however, almost all of my experience has been QH.

griff