Are there any good value Turf stallions in Ky?

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Are there any good value Turf stallions in Ky?

Postby Karie » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:08 am

I am looking to breed my turf Mare in KY (she is there already)
And am looking for a turf stallion that is a good value.

Is there such a thing? I am looking for sure $7,500 and lower... Or someone that will give deals or possibly even a foal share.....

Can anyone think of any stallions?

My mare will cross with about any stallion she is from France and is by Doyoun (her name is Ceasefire). So a stallion with a little speed would also be a good thing.

But in reality I understand that I will probably get a long distance turf horse. I am breeding more to race than to sell at this point, but that could change.

She is due around 3/10 to Black Minnaloushe..

Thanks in advance.......

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Postby Sheikh » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:39 am

Some Danzig blood might work with your Mill reef blood (Ask the aga khan) saw this fella race a few years ago might be worth a look if the stud are willing to negotiate.

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Postby hpkingjr » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:42 am

Century City would be first on my list at $7,500.00. Others that you might look at include Castledale (2nd choice), Mr. Light, Morluc and Hap.

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Postby Morningside » Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:45 am

at 7,500, stroll would be top of my list and then century city second.
if you're willing to spend a little more, royal academy is a no-brainer... you may be able to get him for maybe 12,500.
for foal share, you should look into johar.

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Re: Are there any good value Turf stallions in Ky?

Postby horsenuts » Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:19 am

Karie wrote:I am looking to breed my turf Mare in KY (she is there already)
And am looking for a turf stallion that is a good value.

Is there such a thing? I am looking for sure $7,500 and lower... Or someone that will give deals or possibly even a foal share.....

Can anyone think of any stallions?

My mare will cross with about any stallion she is from France and is by Doyoun (her name is Ceasefire). So a stallion with a little speed would also be a good thing.

But in reality I understand that I will probably get a long distance turf horse. I am breeding more to race than to sell at this point, but that could change.

She is due around 3/10 to Black Minnaloushe..

Thanks in advance.......

-Karie


Northern Spur at $3,500 merits a close look as a value stallion. He's by Sadler's Wells and has been a decent stallion thus far.

Also, Military is doing pretty good with only a few crops to race. He's by Danzig. Only problem is they jumped him to $10,000 from $5,000 and that is to much, IMO. If you can get to Military for under $7,500(and I'm guessing you can)he might be worth trying.

Don't know where you are located but Unusual Heat has been knocking the cover off the ball as a turf sire. He's by Nuryev and now stands for $12,500 in California.

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Postby madelyn » Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:23 am

When I think turf, I think Repriced...
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....

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Postby Sheikh » Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:42 am

Madelyn you sceptic :shock: :lol:

I remember watching Brahms first race,(pretty sure it was Brahms anyway) He was in the all conquering Magnier colours and trained by Aidan O'Brien, he cost a million $ as a yearling,naturally he went off odds on and was turned over by horse that cost £500......... :D

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Postby CS » Fri Jan 27, 2006 9:08 am

There is also Perfect Soul - and he certainly had speed on the grass (set ncr at Keeneland going one mile). He stands for $15K - although you could always inquire about a foal share, as it would be a very nice mating. It never hurts to ask!

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Postby parsixfarms » Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:25 am

I haven't looked at potential crosses and don't know what the physical match-up would look like. For $10K and under, I like the following as grass sires in KY: Military, Pleasant Tap, Pine Bluff, Sultry Song (half-brother to Solar Splendor, sire of Singletary), and Horse Chestnut. My guess is that, on a number of these, you could get a deal in the price range for which you're looking. Two other thoughts: (1) Sky Classic, who is a little pricier, but a pretty good "breed to race" sire; and (2) as a flyer on an unproven stallion, take a look at Cactus Ridge. When I saw him at Walmac last fall, he was a neat horse; his weanlings sold rather well last fall considering his modest stud fee; and he has a pedigree suggesting that he might be a "hidden" turf sire.

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Postby sunday_silence » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:23 pm

If you don't mind unproven, Mingun is $7500. His pedigree is certainly intriguing.

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Postby JimP » Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:56 pm

Hi Guys,

Karie I would look at Hap. I bred by turf producing mare to him last year and am waiting on a foal now. Also have a season to him through my state TB Association if you are interested.
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Postby ragsdaj » Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:55 pm

I thought the northern spur suggestion was a good hypomate.

take a look at Action This Day.

if your interested in him you have an opportunity to possibly get him for less than published airfare.

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Postby ragsdaj » Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:02 pm

actually several of the stallions listed as possibles for you are available at auction price till the 31st of January.

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Postby ragsdaj » Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:10 pm

one other possibilty for you is The Deputy.....not sure if in KY or in MIchigan now. He is a leading sire in Michigan