Fasig Tipton Oct. 22

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Fasig Tipton Oct. 22

Postby ratherrapid » Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:37 pm

Yet to see anything on the board. Anybody going? Anybody bidding? Anyone phone bidding? Is this a bit of a weak catalogue?

Can you go wrong if you limit bids to those with all of the following?
1. flashy, racy stallion.
2. both dam and second dam were winners.
3. both dam and second dam are young or have produced one winner.
4. black type under second dam.

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Postby halo » Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:52 pm

You certainly can go wrong, especially if..

1. bad scope
2. bad xrays
3. not good looking
4. not athletic

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Postby KAL » Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:05 pm

You can always go wrong... even if everything seems right.

Scope is important... but they don't necessarily have to be fantastic.

X-rays are over valued. Many very good critters have had bad x-rays. Many bad critters have had great x-rays. It is the placement of the problem (and the extent of the problem) that is important.

An ugly critter can run as well as a good looking one... but won't sell as well. Buy one to race, but not pinhook.

Being an athlete overrides everything else. This should be the first and in some cases the last consideration. Unfortunately, too many "agents" and "bloodstock" folks cannot spot athletic. So, they lean on the other factors.

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Postby KAL » Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:24 pm

Flashy and racy doesn't run. It does sell.

Make sure the mating makes sense. Too often are we seeing matings done simply to take advantage of a commercial sire and any mare.

Emphasis on family is important, wins and black type are evident, however look at them critically. Don't buy into the "cheap" blacktype or wins.

Some mares have excuses. They might have had ability but got hurt in training. Breed-to-race operations are more apt to shut a filly down and send her to the shed. These are harder to find, but some digging can get it done.

Basically, avoid the "sales" horse. Avoid the bad horse. Avoid the horrible sires and families. Avoid the bad habits and most vet concerns. And, avoid the horrible matings. Then, find the best of the rest. And, always stay in your budget.

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Postby madelyn » Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:14 pm

I will be there.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....

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Postby ratherrapid » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:13 am

hope to see you on the tube! i'm phone bidding. my fasig tipton on site "bidder" seems to be getting impatient with me. Oh well!

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Postby zinn21 » Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:59 pm

Purchases anyone??

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Postby ratherrapid » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:02 pm

i got 354. should have got 185 :evil:

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Postby zinn21 » Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:22 am

Hey Rather, I watched him sell online. He was a nice looking colt on my screen. Good Luck!

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Postby ratherrapid » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:17 am

txs very much zinn! he's enroute, and we'll see him soon!

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Postby johnt » Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:17 pm

KAL, appreciate your posts! Can you explain what to look for when looking for an "athletic" horse, rather than something thats just good looking?

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Postby jellac » Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:07 pm

KAL -

When you said.........
You can always go wrong... even if everything seems right.
....you said it all. Good one!

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Postby LB » Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:42 pm

johnt wrote:KAL, appreciate your posts! Can you explain what to look for when looking for an "athletic" horse, rather than something thats just good looking?


I'm not KAL, but I'll take a stab at answering. :wink:

Watch the horse in motion. While you're waiting for it to be brought out, don't just stand around talking to your friends--keep an eye on the horse. Does he exit the barn looking eager and interested? Is the stride long and fluid even when he's not quite sure where he's going?

Look at the horse standing still, then have it moved for you--more than once if necessary to see what you want to see. Watch from the back, the front, and the side. Does the horse reach under itself and really push off from behind? Does he cover ground with a smooth, economical motion? What you really want is a yearling that drops its head, uses its shoulder and strides right out. A real athlete makes it look easy. And that's the yearling you're looking for.