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The effect of curlin on his family

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:36 am
by bdw0617
Apparantly not as much as they would hope





You'd think that a curlin half sister by Saint Liam would be a hot ticket right about now..WRONG.

HIP (#558), curlin's half sister, RNA'ed at $600k!!!

You mean to tell me that curln's half sister, but a hot first year sire, and not only that, she is one of about 50 foals that you will ever see by Saint Liam because he died, half sister to Curlin can't pull in $600k? that's kinda sad.


Curlin's half sister, Deputy, HIP #401, RNA'd, in foal to Fu Peg, for $220k

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:15 am
by Rokeby Forever
BDW - on the damside, there just isn't much there.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:15 am
by yukidragon
Guess you can say Curlin's family got Fuzzy Math disease.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:31 am
by sunday_silence
I would've taken the $600,000 for that filly and run. She's OK, but nothing special. She's very Saint Liam, which is good and bad. She has some nice qualities, a powerful looking rear end, a good mind and moves well, carries herself well. I was impressed with how calm and businesslike she was first thing in the morning when I saw her. In other words, she wasn't tired yet from a long day of being shown and she still behaved like a pro. But she is over at the knee, doesn't have a lot of shoulder (doesn't fit well with the large booty) and she's on the light-boned side like Saint Liam. I'd be interested to see her as a yearling, if she goes through the Sept. sale or something. With some prep, maybe they could get her muscled more in the right places. Overall, I was not that impressed with any of the Saint Liams I saw. And I really wanted to like them.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:55 am
by madelyn
Regarding #401, you might say she has FuPeg disease.

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:31 am
by Hold Your Peace
Actually Curlin had a huge impact on the value of the Saint Liam filly.

Were it not for Curlin that filly probably would have been in book 3 or book 4 of this sale and she probably would have sold or RNA'd for $60,000 (and that's being generous as I saw the filly and really didn't like her at all).

Instead she RNA'd for $600,000 so Curlin increased her value tenfold.

Overall the Saint Liam's weren't particulary hot. They weren't a physically impressive group, and I think most people had reservations about betting on a son of Saint Ballado standing for $50k to be the next big thing anyway, and then I think most people consider the fact that they're his only crop a negative as his lack of numbers almost ensures he will never be remembered as a successful sire years from now (even though it's not his fault).

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:24 am
by Mood Swings
The Saint Liam filly had very long pasterns. I really wonder about people sometimes. RNA at 600k? What were their expectations?

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:07 pm
by bdw0617
the weanling I can kinda see where they are coming from... not completely but kinda

but Deputy, I mean she literarly was loosing at Retma in claimers earlier this decade... you take what you can get and run. fuzzy math is right

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:09 pm
by madelyn
Re the Saint Liam, also you don't know, at all, where the live money was which would peg the value of the horse.. the auctioneers bid up to the reserve. The live money could have quit at $25K.

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:07 pm
by clh
Mood Swings wrote:The Saint Liam filly had very long pasterns. I really wonder about people sometimes. RNA at 600k? What were their expectations?


I believe their expectations were $1 million.

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:08 pm
by clh
madelyn wrote:Re the Saint Liam, also you don't know, at all, where the live money was which would peg the value of the horse.. the auctioneers bid up to the reserve. The live money could have quit at $25K.


Madelyn - I think it was "live money" bidding only and that was the last bid. :shock:

Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:35 pm
by bdw0617
clh wrote:
Mood Swings wrote:The Saint Liam filly had very long pasterns. I really wonder about people sometimes. RNA at 600k? What were their expectations?


I believe their expectations were $1 million.


beggers can't be choosers.


you have a plain jane mare who happened to throw a BCC winner, and the rest of your family is full of low level claiemrs

you take wat you can get. yes, a year ago I would have been happy with 50k, but now 600k is not enough

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:58 am
by winds
Geesh it was a weanling for crying out loud. I would have taken the 600k and laughed all the way to the bank.

I don't know what people think some times. Greed, and it's not good.

winds

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:13 am
by Mood Swings
winds wrote:Geesh it was a weanling for crying out loud. I would have taken the 600k and laughed all the way to the bank.

I don't know what people think some times. Greed, and it's not good.

winds


I'm with you 100% :)

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:46 pm
by clh
And I was thrilled with the $20,000 I got for my Even the Score :lol: