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Postby karenkarenn » Thu Jul 09, 2009 8:52 pm

I used DMSO and Furozone the first week of the laceration, and it didnt do anything.
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Postby Intrinsic Worth » Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:37 am

Worked fine for my horse and the horses at farm I worked at in KY
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Postby karenkarenn » Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:51 am

Again, dont take it personal, its been close to three weeks and I have given up on the furozone and DMSO. It doesnt work in this situation. Im not asking for were you work at, it just stating fact that its not working here. I am using the sugar and betadine though.

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Postby madelyn » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:15 am

Sugar may help to discourage proud flesh formation by drawing all of the fluid from the wound. Wonder dust is a CAUSTIC that is used to dissolve proud flesh that has already formed. Regardless, I think air must also get to the wound. When I've had bad ones, I usually leave the wrap off for five or six hours during the day to let the air get at it, provided it was not on a joint that needed to be entirely immobilized because of stitches, etc.
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Postby Strategic Maneuver » Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:47 am

Karen, have you tried hydrating the wound with cool water about 10 min. twice a day?

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Postby karenkarenn » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:33 pm

Madelyn- Yes you are right with that. Yesterday I took off the bandage permently, added the sugar and the betadine and the swelling has gone down. It does work. :lol: I spent three weeks bandaging and re bandaging.. I couldn't believe it......
Srategic Maneuver Yes water helps alot, Since June 15th actaully is when I started the soaking and the wrapping. But thats a good idea.
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Postby Shammy Davis » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:17 pm

Intrinsic Worth posted:
I've used DMSO mixed with furazone and it works great


How much DMSO? Liquid or Gel? How much furazone? Apply as a paste? Bandage? I've always been told to keep wounds that may degress to proud flesh should be kept dry. Over the years as a farrier, I've worked on a number of lower leg wounds and I've found, and have been advised by Vets, that moisture increases the chances of proud flesh and prolongs healing time. I can see your reasoning, but I'm not sure about your method.

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Postby karenkarenn » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:20 pm

You know Shammy you are right.
With Music the wound still HASNT healed. Im out of choices now, Ive used sugar and betadine, honey ( unpasturized) DMSO and Furozone at first.
Im lost.
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Postby Shammy Davis » Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:59 pm

Without having seen the wound, its hard to tell you exactly what to do. If it is an open unsutured wound you will need a great deal of patience. Someone posted to cold hose the wound and I agree. After that I would spray either betadine or diluted Nolvasan on the wound and let it stand for a few minutes or longer. Then lightly pat dry. Don't bandage. With a serious wound I follow this regimen three times a day.

Some say to prevent proud flesh that you should use a compression bandage, but I don't think it works because it holds the moisture in. There will normally be an appearance of proud flesh, but experience tells me that after time the wound will heal flush with surface of the skin. I worked on a number of horses, many my own, with wire lacerations and penetrating wounds and I've never had a case where proud flesh was retained after healing. It will seem to you that the granulation is getting worse, but given time it will begin to reduce in size and then disappear. The worst that can happen is that after healing the proud flesh will have to be excised. The odds are in your favor with attentive treatment that it won't.

Periodically, if the healing process is long term, I will give injectable Penacillin, as directed, to prevent infections. I had one horse that had a wire laceration below the hock and it took six months for complete healing. I gave a regimen (one series for 3 or 4 days) of Penacillin once every month for the first three months. He was one of my daughters field hunters and he is as good as new.

If this is a leg injury move to a paddock and don't restrict movement. I think the most difficult wound to work with is on the back. If it is back wound you need to increase the treatment regimen with additional cold hosing.

Hope this helps.

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Postby karenkarenn » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:28 pm

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Postby Shammy Davis » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:39 pm

Doesn't look too bad. I think my suggestions apply. Patience is a valuable resource when working with horses. That particularly applies with wounds and injuries. I can't tell what the depth of the wound is but you are probably looking at a month or so for complete healing. There will probably be a linear scar at the spot and if you do have granulation, it may initially appear as proud, but most likely, because of its location, will disappear. Be attentive to the regimen. don't bandage, and allow him/her to move freely.

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Postby Intrinsic Worth » Mon Jul 27, 2009 3:51 pm

Borax soap and a scrubbing pad, everyday. Have someone hold the horse, it will hurt.
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