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Postby Foxie » Thu Aug 03, 2006 10:42 am

Does anyone give their horses any supplements ie: like Gluocsamine?

And what products do you give them and how much?

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Postby Bondama » Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:13 pm

My elderly mare (age 22) gets a supplement in the form of Majesty wafers...it's for joints and is made with glucosamine and chondroitin. She cracks and gets stiff legs without it. With it, she's great and loves a good run.

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Postby Urai » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:34 pm

Our racehorses that are (3 and up) get Lubrysin. We've been trying this for the last 4 months, I'm not noticing too much of a difference but will continue until the end of the year to see how it goes.
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Postby mikec » Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:17 pm

Bio-Si ( silicon ) and biotin. Just began with the Bio-Si on the recommendation of our trainer so have no idea. " supposedly " it goes right to the foal before & after birth to strtengthen bones. We'll see ! The Biotin however did absolute wonders for the feet one of our mares so I'll probably never stop using it.
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Postby Rushtawin » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:45 pm

Curious, how expensive is the Biotin and is it a powder supplement?

I noticed with my mare, that when she was on 10% protein instead of 12%, her hoof quality started to suffer.
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Postby mikec » Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:07 am

Yep ; it's a powder so just add it to the feed. Oddly enough I priced it all over the internet and found the least expensive source, after adding shipping, was my local tack shop so that may be your best bet as well. I know some people who have used it and it did nothing at all so maybe I'm just fortunate 'cause it really helped enormously.
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Postby ragsdaj1 » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:18 am

Rushtawin,

Biotin is found in most hoof care supplements and prices can vary depending on how many mgs per serving. One of the more economical brands is by Finish Line called Horse Shoe, it publishes 20mgs of biotin. A 2lb container sells for about $16 dollars and is suppose to cover 32 days. Some places offer free shipping if you purchase X amount in product.

I am guessing the grain Babe gets is provided with your room and board.
If that is not the case you may try switching from a sweet feed to a non-sweetened feed. Typically the price is about the same but you get a higher protein percentage with non-sweetened. I use a Country Acres brand by Purina and it is 14%. 4% higher than the 10% sweet feed for about the same price. At first my horses missed the sweet, but in a day or two you wont notice a difference. I also throw in a handlful of alfafa cubes which are a nice source of 15-17% protein also. These horses eat all the grain before touching the cubes; they dont miss that sweet at all. Since your horse is stalled you do need to watch your horses protein intake especially on days she is not going to be turned out or worked. Pent up engery can quickly turn to vices.

The vitamins and minerals from the grass/hay Babe eats is a contributing factor to healthy hooves also. With higher temperatures the grass nutritional value may be lower.


MikeC,

I also found biotin in a "blood builders" supplement Iron Horse by Finish Line (out of Crimson Saint).

Are blood builders kosher in the racing biz?


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Postby mikec » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:27 am

Hi Jon,
The biotin we've been using is by Paragon and is the 50 mg. / scoop variety. It ain't cheap but worth every penny ! Takes time for it to work but persistence pays off. Of course with the heat we've had the ground is like concrete & given all the pacing & fussing Carly did after her baby was weaned her feet should have been a lot worse so the benefits of the biotin are noticeable.
Don't know for sure about blood builders being taboo at the early stage we're at but I'll shy away only because I don't want to start messin' around with too much " stuff ".
As for the Bio-Si ; I may never know if that stuff is any good. The studies leave much to the imagination but the person who is going to break our babies swears by the stuff and says she's seen far fewer shin problems etc.. since she incorporated it into her program so I'll go along for now.
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Postby kezeli » Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:23 am

We always used Red Cell or Stamina atom(sp?) on race horses. Also gave an electrolyte/B vitamin "jug" I.V. before races on warm/hot days. Can you still give the "jug", it was called Aminoplex, It was really good stuff as I like to "hop" a horses feed tub with H2O solubles/electrolytes on race days.

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Postby TBLADY » Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:21 am

Platinum Performance, Hemo-Flo (MAde by Platinum Performance) and Osteon (also from Platinum) have had great results from ALL AGES