Bleeders

[fort_falcon]

We have several bleeders in the yard and we treat them with Lasix in their pre-race sprint ups. On the day of the race we give them an oral paste called Freeflow which is imported from England, and we also give them Ammonium Chloride.

All these treatments work well, but I'm just interested to know what treatments other people use. here in South Africa we're a bit behind when it comes to "up to date" methods of treatment.

Any suggestions/information would be great!!!!

Thanks

[louis finochio]

Try feeding your TB skins of oranges, apples, bananas, mangos, peaches, as these biaflavonids will help bleeders.

[fort_falcon]

very interesting, thank you:)

[BenB]

Bleeding is caused by stress, high temperature in combination with high
moisture, above the 70%.
Because of the stress, the outside of the cells is not strong and there is no
protection against free bleeding anymore.
We use natural herbals for treatment the stress factor.
Natural Anti Oxidants will help a great lot, they are mostly found in fruits
etc.
Manufactor N A F Natural Animal Feed product Calmer
Good luck with it

[fort_falcon]

Yeah, there was a survey done here by Onderstepoort University they scoped over 1000 horses across the country and it was found that horses on the coastal areas "Bled" worse than horses that raced in the High country.

LF---how do you encourage horses to eat fruit skins? Mine are happy to eat the apple skins, but not everything else!!!

[BenB]

NAF Calmer, is made of almost 100% fruits (pre served ???) and is
about 100% effective. Unless the horse is a very severe bleeder.

[ratherrapid]

there is an interesting product called Xantax that is sold in the catalogue's in the usa, by farnam i believe. ive got a box of them in my refrig. i've researched the ingredients in wikepedia. interesting stuff. BUT Xantax seems to be very effective. less effective than lasix, but it definitely does work to some degree. breezing or racing in humidity certainly increases the odds of bleeding. but, i also find bleeding is a function of training. my bleeders tend to bleed more early in their training, but, if im very careful as they go on and become more fit they seem to bleed less and and sometimes not at all. additionally for unexplainable reasons i think a tongue tie helps. my experience is not extensive. ive had very few bleeders which i attribute to rigorous training and we're in the usa equivalent of the highlands. i'd be interested to know what is in that product u r using and whether it works.

[Tucumcari]

Herbs of the World- Bleeders cn't be leaders
=Stop Seeing Red
=etc.
Shepherds Purse

ETC....

[CA Michael]

Hunan Paio is a Korean herb historically used in the treatment of heavy menstrual flow and later, in the Korean War, for controlling battle wounds.

Fighting dust particles in bedding and hay is very important too. NO ALFALFA! Oat hay and straw is best, perhaps Timothy hay too.

In my experience speed horses are more likely to bleed than closers. Keeping them as relaxed on the lead as possible (as opposed to head to head encounters) will minimize the chance of bleeding.

Humidity is often highest in the a.m., so later training schedules for bleeders can also help.

The AEROMASK is a must.

[Rez]

Herbs of the World- Bleeders cn't be leaders
=Stop Seeing Red
=etc.
Shepherds Purse

ETC....

Amen to that. We use Shepards Purse and it works great. Old trainer recipe.