Outcross, Hybrid Vigor and the Derby: A question for Louis

[Shammy Davis]

PZ: I've read the darn thing numerous times. My memory is the culprit. Can't even find the car keys.

I'm reading a few other books now and I revisit Tesio in a couple of weeks. In the meantime, you all should elaborate.

[diomed]

Most of my knowledge is from the many books I have bought and read for the last couple decades. I have visited the Keeneland Library numerous times and have copied pages from rare books. I always went to Glover's Bookery in Lexington to scrounge for rare Gems.
Online, the best sources are TBHeritage and Bloodlines as well as Google books. There are many available free previews available, especially the ASB.

[Shammy Davis]

Diomed: I'm in my twilight years. Not much time left. Amuse me. You should know by now that I always have my nose in a book or resource. Help out here. I live here with wannabees in VA. What are the chances I can browze the Lexington bookstores? I do travel the used book store net and have some jewels of my own. Without the "inbred" thread, it appears you gurus are probably all I have to cling to. Well, not all. I do have "wasn't Barky banned" mania to add amusement to my life. Okay, there is the censorship topic and my fight for free speech and the American way.

Help me out. Any elaboration would be helpful. Links too. I promise to ask questions. I'm getting the feeling you all don't want me. I promise to be good.

Also, when you all use initials for resources or references et al put what it means in ( ).

[diomed]

Of course we want you...lol. Really?
Anyways, for starters, Glover's Bookery has a web site.
http://www.gloversbookery.com/
You can browse for good books/resouces, etc.
GSB means General Stud Book. ASB means American Stud Book.
I have some pretty good links on my blog(which I haven't updated in some time.lol). http://thefastesthorse.blogspot.com/
Most are some good google ebook links.
Let me know if you checked them out.

[Pan Zareta]

Help out here. I live here with wannabees in VA. What are the chances I can browze the Lexington bookstores?

FORGET the bookstores (for out-of-print titles). Identify the references you'd most like to have. Grab a digital camera and head for the National Sporting Library in Middleburg, or to the Keeneland Library. Or find out what you can get via Inter-Library Loan at your local library.

If you absolutely can't resist the temptation to purchase on the secondary market then use bookfinder.com "the largest online book clearinghouse". I've gotten several titles at 'bargain basement' price thru bookfinder.

[Shammy Davis]

Okay, gurus, I'll follow your suggestions but a new rule is that future posts have to have "elaboration" and "footnotes."

You all have been confiding in each other privately for too too long. We already have one private blog on PQ.

I'll take responsibility for keeping the "censorship" at bay. All you gurus need to do now is refrain from being offensive. I'll help.

[Bill from WA]

One of my favorite books is "Memories of Racing and Hunting" by the 6th Duke of Portland. Full of first hand accounts and wonderful anecdotal commentary about the Duke's years as an owner and breeder. Lots of stuff about St Simon. Hard to find, but well worth the search.

Bill

[Shammy Davis]

Bill: Wonderful reading recommendation. I don't suppose you make loans or have a copying machine?

[Patuxet]

Shammy: According to an online search there are copies of "Memories of Racing and Hunting" by the 6th Duke of Portland in the libraries at UVA and William & Mary. Perhaps some kind of inter-library loan can be arranged.

[vineyridge]

If you're in Virginia, the National Sporting Library is a good place to find source material, as is UVA.

[Bill from WA]

Hi Shammy

When some serious health issues cropped up a while back, I started disposing of some of my library (my wife, although supportive of my passion for research re: the thoroughbred) has no real interest in carrying on my work. I sold my copy of the Duke's book, along with some magazine articles from that era. I can't recall right now who bought it. I probably read the book, cover-to-cover five or six times, and referenced the content hundreds of times more. A wonderful history of that era.

Bill

[docjocoy]

Hi Shammy

When some serious health issues cropped up a while back, I started disposing of some of my library (my wife, although supportive of my passion for research re: the thoroughbred) has no real interest in carrying on my work. I sold my copy of the Duke's book, along with some magazine articles from that era. I can't recall right now who bought it. I probably read the book, cover-to-cover five or six times, and referenced the content hundreds of times more. A wonderful history of that era.

Bill

Your wife, whom I've met and is delightful, reminds me of my mother in law, who threw out my husbands collection of baseball cards. I'm not sure he ever forgave her!

[Bill from WA]

http://www.biblio.com/books/229999245.html

http://www.biblio.com/search.php?stage= ... 005&order=

I don't think the Mrs. would throw everything out, but it would be a real hassle for her to get rid of everything when my time is up.

Shammy,

The links show several options. A bunch of paperback reprints, plus some original hardbound editions. Some pretty cheap.

Bill

[Bill from WA]

Interesting stuff. Kind of hard to read, but gives an insight into the thinking at the time.

http://archive.org/stream/horsebreeding ... 0/mode/2up

[Joltman]

(now I can't find the tractor key) .

Shammy - just leave it in the tractor.

jm