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Understanding pedigrees, inbreeding, dosage, etc.

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Postby Bast » Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:46 am

dublino wrote:
Bast wrote:Louis,

Please proof read and try making this post again. I think I know what you mean, but I don't want to guess.



For someone who has made two posts in the past 24hrs that weren't proof read, you have some neck.

If you have nothing to add apart from comments about proof reading you should be out repairing that green house of yours.


louis finochio wrote:All of those photos of tb that were foaled before 1980 were NFB, as those NP sire line stallions & mares were alive & well. after 1980 to present those NP sire lines didnt reproduce theirselves.


What is Louis referring to? I'm not sure.

louis finochio wrote:Thats when we lost are catalyst of soundness & those FB with Inbreeding to 1 sire line became the rage. The result is the conformation has changed when we lost our outcross.


"Catalyst of soundness" doesn't mean anything. If I make up a term, like "catalyst of speed" or "co-enzyme of stamina" or "coefficient of gameness", such a term still doesn't mean anything despite the verbal gloss.

I think Louis means "our" but wrote "are" but I cannot be certain. I'd rather Louis cleared it up. That's fair, isn't it?
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Postby dublino » Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:29 am

Bast wrote: That's fair, isn't it?


Yes sure just like you all have been fair to Louis.

Don't be so concerned with the i's crossed and the t's dotted, not everyone is the literary genius that you are, Shakespeare. :roll:
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Postby Bast » Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:45 am

dublino wrote:
Bast wrote: That's fair, isn't it?


Yes sure just like you all have been fair to Louis.

Don't be so concerned with the i's crossed and the t's dotted, not everyone is the literary genius that you are, Shakespeare. :roll:


Louis has been asked to offer proof beyond anecdotal lists. That is the way science is done. Louis has been asked to use terminology as understood in the wider world--"hybrid vigor" doesn't mean whatever it is Louis means when he uses it. "Catalyst of soundness" doesn't mean anything at all, but Louis persists in its usage.

Attention to detail is typically required to do anything well. Rushing through and doing a slovenly job is rarely successful.

People who take care to express themselves with clarity usually have more to say than people who cannot be bothered to do more than throw words together with not much concern for whether anyone else can untwist any meaning from those words.

What I find interesting is that Louis' defenders are so unpleasant. Louis isn't unpleasant, but his defenders are fixated on 1) not learning anything and 2) trashing anyone who actually looks at data.
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Postby BenB » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:10 am

I do not care a damn about handpicked names from handpicked horses., as I need to have data and nothing else.

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Postby dublino » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:11 am

Wow, I will leave it there with you, you are delusional at best. :shock:
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Postby Bast » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:06 pm

dublino wrote:Wow, I will leave it there with you, you are delusional at best. :shock:


Some things bear repeating:

What I find interesting is that Louis' defenders are so unpleasant. Louis isn't unpleasant, but his defenders are fixated on 1) not learning anything and 2) trashing anyone who actually looks at data.


No one is demanding that you exert yourself to learn anything or understand anything, but don't ridicule people who bring more than irrational traditions to racehorse training and breeding, unless you want to reveal your own inertia.
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Postby Shammy Davis » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:18 pm

Dublino posted:
Yes sure just like you all have been fair to Louis.

Don't be so concerned with the i's crossed and the t's dotted, not everyone is the literary genius that you are, Shakespeare.


I've come to the conclusion that I would enjoy your posts much more if you would respond in Gaelic.

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Postby dublino » Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:36 am

Shammy Davis wrote:I've come to the conclusion that I would enjoy your posts much more if you would respond in Gaelic.


póg mo thón :lol:
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Postby hpkingjr » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:08 am

póg mo thón

Spit and give us a hint.
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Postby louis finochio » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:35 am

Why do those tb in those photos have thin spindle legs? & why did those tbs have tons of lifetime starts? Because those tbs were not Inbred to 1 sire line. Those tbs that were Inbred, were Inbred to those NP sire line stallions & mares that bred sound individuals as those NP sire lines were not related.

In their time frame, their conformation was that of a greyhound type. Long backs from their withers to hind end. Long legs, & long neck, they had a lighter frame than our blocky QH type of tb today.

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Postby dublino » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:43 am

hpkingjr wrote:póg mo thón

Spit and give us a hint.


póg = Kiss
mo = my
thón =
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Postby Shammy Davis » Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:09 am

Dublino wrote:
póg mo thón


hpkingjr: You see, I knew it. Even if Dubs is thinking the worst, it just sounds better in Gaelic.

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Postby dublino » Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:21 am

Shammy Davis wrote:hpkingjr: You see, I knew it. Even if Dubs is thinking the worst, it just sounds better in Gaelic.


Go raibh maith agat, Shammy.

Ta tú ok i mo leabhar.
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Postby Bast » Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:42 am

louis finochio wrote:Why do those tb in those photos have thin spindle legs? & why did those tbs have tons of lifetime starts? Because those tbs were not Inbred to 1 sire line. Those tbs that were Inbred, were Inbred to those NP sire line stallions & mares that bred sound individuals as those NP sire lines were not related.

In their time frame, their conformation was that of a greyhound type. Long backs from their withers to hind end. Long legs, & long neck, they had a lighter frame than our blocky QH type of tb today.

to continue.


Specifics, Louis. Please. Comments on Individuals 1-5, so we can see exactly what you are referring to. That's why I put up the pictures.
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Postby BenB » Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:32 am

I have been in eire more than a dozen times, I bought several horses at Goffs, but I have not heard so much nonsense what louis is writing.