Pedigree Query

The GSV is lower for this mare than other mares that didn't race as well or don't have the breeding. I bought this mare last year off this board, and we bred her to a good stallion, but this score is never higher than my other mares with the same stallions.


Charming Heiress in foal to Morluc...

Coach's Dream...Wild Bishop get better GSV's with the same
stallions...What's the story with this one tool for breeding?

Dave

Don't put too much stock in GSV numbers......

Our gelding had a GSV of 74.90 and never broke his maiden!

GSV is a number that George Smith devised to assist him in planning matings. Since his clients were looking for more classic type horses, the highest numbers go to horses with the potential to become successful at classic distances.

Of course, George would be the first to tell you that his Genetic Strength Values (I originally thought they were George Smith Values) are about the potential outcome for the mating, not a guaranteed result. The genetic dice must still be rolled and sometimes they come up craps.

Charmimg heiress already has a lower GSV than the other two mares. Naturally, if bred to the same stallion the resulting number would be lower.
The number is also lower if bred to a new stallion. Abilities are unknown.

GSV is not an evaluation of the horse's track performance, it is more an evaluation of the combined success of the horses in your mare's (or planned foal's) ancestors. So even had your mare been a G1 winner, her GSV would still be low (because it doesn't change her ancestors) and the GSV of off spring low as a result (because of her low GSV).

There are at least two horses at MNR w/GSV at 73+ running (and loosing) in 5K claimers. So as you said, it is just one tool among many.

KamiBrooks wrote:GSV is not an evaluation of the horse's track performance, it is more an evaluation of the combined success of the horses in your mare's (or planned foal's) ancestors.

There are at least two horses at MNR w/GSV at 73+ running (and loosing) in 5K claimers. So as you said, it is just one tool among many.

That's why it's called 'Genetic Strength' value - a measure of the genetic potential to be a high class classic distance horse. Based not on the racing abilities of the horses involved, but what they sired and produced.

I'll bet those high GSV horses are running at 5-8f, too, which are too short for them to show their potentially best form.

'I'll bet those high GSV horses are running at 5-8f, too, which are too short for them to show their potentially best form."

The one that ran last night, DP 42, GSV 76.6 ran 6f, finished 8th, "outrun early, beat two weary foes late"