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Need stallions with Mirza. Any help?

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:49 pm
by pokeyman
Are there any other stallions that carry Mirza (x Mumtaz Mahal) besides the descendants of Rahy, Saint Ballado, and Devil's Bag?

I have been racking my brain all day and my head is starting to hurt!!

I am trying to bring in this line......

Any help would be very much appreciated!

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:38 pm
by Fireslam
Do you mean like Storm Surge?

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 6:01 pm
by pokeyman
Any stallion that carries Mirza!!

Of course, proven stallions with solid sire records preferred..8)

Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:33 pm
by ASB
You can sometimes see broodmares, especially in the mid-West and Indiana for some reason out of a few daughters of Iram.

Boyatino is a stallion who stood in Europe. I believe he his dead now but you might be able to google some descendants. He was a handy broodmare sire I believe.

Pik As carried him and was a huge influence as a sport horse sire, especially of jumpers. You might want to research him.

Arromaches hails from a completely different branch of Skylarking. He's in Indiana as well, I believe. There's tons of stallions tail-female to Skylarking. I would go this route.

And if all that wasn't random enough, his well represented in Barbados of all places.

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:34 am
by pokeyman
ASB wrote:You can sometimes see broodmares, especially in the mid-West and Indiana for some reason out of a few daughters of Iram.

Boyatino is a stallion who stood in Europe. I believe he his dead now but you might be able to google some descendants. He was a handy broodmare sire I believe.

Pik As carried him and was a huge influence as a sport horse sire, especially of jumpers. You might want to research him.

Arromaches hails from a completely different branch of Skylarking. He's in Indiana as well, I believe. There's tons of stallions tail-female to Skylarking. I would go this route.

And if all that wasn't random enough, his well represented in Barbados of all places.


Thanks for your reply!

Interesting that a lot are in the Midwest. That's too far for me as I am looking FL, KY, or North East. However, it's god to know just in case!

Well, Pik As is out as I race but he sure is a fancy sport horse!LOL

I have tried the Skylarking route but that is mostly Devil's Bag, Saint Ballado, and Rahy (and their descendants).

This particular mare is hard to sex balance; loaded with filly factors; and doesn't match up with a lot of stallions. If I can find Mirza than that will even her out a bit as she has Badruddin......

Ah, back to the drawing board! :?

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:49 am
by Fireslam
You dont like Storm Surge?

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:56 am
by pokeyman
Fireslam wrote:You dont like Storm Surge?


Well, I think he has a lot of up side for a completely unproven stallion. However, his stud fee is too high.

His pedigree is solid (although Storm Cat/Mr. Prospector are a dime a dozen). Ho hum.

His race record is acceptable. His soundness better than most from those lines.

I am just not a fan of that particular cross.

Plus, I never breed to unproven stallions..... Especially, when I can breed to a proven stallion for the same amount (Slew city Slew, Concerto, Devil His Due, Outflanker, Disco Rico,Concordes Tune, etc).

Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:47 am
by Fireslam
Ah...well, a proven horse was not part of what you said you were looking for, only horses with lines to Mirza other than thru Devils Bag, Saint Ballado, and Rahy.

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:14 pm
by Firebrand
Pokeyman,

If you are still looking for stallions that descend from Mirza, have you looked at Military?