Runaway Groom for 12,500

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Runaway Groom for 12,500

Postby johnrr88 » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:59 pm

Friends:
Is he having fertility problems? He is a 1979 model. I kind of have an interest at 12, 500. His babies dont seem to sell very well , despite his decent stallion credentials ,do they?

I am, however, not familiar with his physical attributes and the type of mares he needs. I have a large mare with medium bone who needs a medium size stallion who doesnt make giants. Does he qualify in that regard?

The resulting foal would be an outcross, 5x5 to Better Self and Nasrullah.

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Postby mlwinter » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:35 pm

A lot of babies are not selling well because of

1. The Economy

2. The dams they are out of

3. The amount of babies produced each year

4. The number of stallions available each year and

5. The desire for people to think that they have the latest greatest baby out of the newest bestest stallion on the market. Forget who those sire's sire is... they are too old, just like the mares selling at F-T.

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Postby Sangue Vecchio » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:54 pm

I too am interested in breeding to him this year, but I breed to race, so sales don't really have the same effect on my operation. I didn't have any luck last year breeding to Craft Prospector, but I am going to give it another go with the class of '79.

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Postby reenci » Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:14 pm

dont be afraid of not going with the flavor of the day if you are breeding to race...2 years ago i went with a 1977 model {raise a man} and i have an excellent 2 yo prospect as a result.......now sales are a whole different story.
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Postby henthorn » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:42 pm

In regard to Runaway Groom himself, he fits your bill. I don't know anything about his babies or his fertility, but he is a mid-sized, agile, well-conformed horse. Very nice!
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Postby pokeyman » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:44 am

I concur....AMAZING VALUE as a stallion.

Make sure your mare is straight legged up front (definitely not calf kneed) and has her legs set on the corners and not underneathe her.

He throws very professional, honest, hardworking dispositions as well.

He is a also one of the few stallions that sires soundness and his kids average almost 20 starts. Super high in today's current scene.

Lastly, he throws versatility and his kids can sprint go long, dirt or turf- depending on mare .

LOVE HIM as a sire!

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:37 am

100% right, Pokeyman. This horse never got the recognition as a stallion that he deserved. If he's the right nick and his comformation matches your mare, don't waste another minute!
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Postby GreenThumb » Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:25 pm

Hi,

I talked to someone there on the phone some months back about him, I think you can get to him for about 9k. They know he is old and his sales are down.

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Postby tinners way » Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:14 am

I have two of his daughters, and will try to find another yearling or weanling by him this year. All the comments about him are correct. Met the stallion for the first time 15 years ago at the original Vinery, and again a couple of years ago. Great temperment, good conformation and the two daughters I have while not world beaters earned their keep and have been good producers.

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Postby geowarrior » Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:38 pm

That is too bad, Runaway Groom was a very good sire. I hope he has a comfortable retirement.

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:28 pm

I really, really liked this ol' guy as a stallion. I hope he gets all the carrots he wants.
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Postby freshman » Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:09 pm

Wow, it's always a little sobering when a stallion like this ages out. Runaway Groom has been around long enough to be taken for granted...like a lot of other guys.

No doubt he'll have a nice retirement at Vinery. He's put in some long, good innings...even if he hasn't hit many homeruns at the sales in recent years. A stallion that stands and is buried in the bluegrass is pretty rare these days. What a nice horse.

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Postby Gerry » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:26 am

I love Runaway Groom and am glad that he will spend his remaining years at Vinery. We stand his son Jelly Roll Romp who is getting a special treat (as well as 2 mares) today in celebration of his dads longevity in the breeding shed.