Best Proven Stallion under 20K

jagger · Postby **jagger** » Mon May 21, 2007 1:53 pm

Quiet American 20K
Devil His Due 10K
Cryptoclearance 7.5K
Real Quiet 5K (?)

bcassidy · Postby **bcassidy** » Mon May 21, 2007 6:38 pm

Some excellent stallions have already been listed but for my money Northern Afleet and Smoke Glacken are two of the best in that price range. SG is over 20k and NA still has some things to prove to others (not me) so I would rank NA as the best priced now and also the stallion with the best potential down the road but you would have to share my views about NA. He does throw a very correct foal.

Kari · Postby **Kari** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:46 am

Rokeby Forever wrote:I stand for under 20K and my AEI can't be that bad...give me a chance!

Oh, Roke.

You need a good, experienced wingman to help you out. He can act as booker and handler, and he has to be brave enough to muzzle you before the girls are within sight. :wink:

Then maybe you'll get your chance.

griff · Postby **griff** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:47 am

Limit Out has 80.3% winners from staters, 16% black type and 10% BTW and he did that with very "average' mares.

These data can be found in the Mid Atlantic Thoroughbred

he stands at naylee Farm in WV for $3,500 live foal stand and nurse.

griff

geowarrior · Postby **geowarrior** » Tue May 22, 2007 5:48 am

There's also Evansville Slew, supposedly the ultimate in breed-to-race value.

madelyn · Postby **madelyn** » Tue May 22, 2007 7:15 am

But Evansville Slew is in Oklahoma or somewhere, isn't he?

fletch621 · Postby **fletch621** » Tue May 22, 2007 8:08 am

Yes, Evansville Slew is in Oklahoma.... so?

madelyn · Postby **madelyn** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:07 am

It would just be awfully expensive (maybe more than the stud fee) to ship a mare to Evansville Slew. Unless, of course, you are near Oklahoma.

fletch621 · Postby **fletch621** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:15 am

Madelyn, that may be the case... but it also might still be worth it.

madelyn · Postby **madelyn** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:53 am

Um... certainly not for me. Slew City Slew is here in KY. There are also six other stallions here with a reverse, but similar pedigree, who are by Mr. Prospector (or sons/grandsons) out of Seattle Slew mares. I just can't imagine a northeast (the original poster is in PA) or KY/MD/VA/WV breeder sending a mare to Oklahoma to be bred.. but you seem familiar with Oklahoma, what incentives or advantages would such a foal have or be eligible for? You would have to count KY out because the KY Incentives require the foal to be sired by a KY resident stallion.

geowarrior · Postby **geowarrior** » Tue May 22, 2007 10:24 am

My fault, Madelyn, I didn't notice the original poster was from Pa. I just thought he/she was asking about good value stallions in general and Evansville Slew always gets raves.

madelyn · Postby **madelyn** » Tue May 22, 2007 11:28 am

No worries, geowarrior. I thought perhaps it had been overlooked that Evansville Slew had been moved. Indeed, Evansville Slew certainly got raves. It will be interesting to see what his 2007 book looked like. (He moved after the '06 breeding season.) I was very sorry to see him leave KY.

fletch621 · Postby **fletch621** » Tue May 22, 2007 12:56 pm

Madelyn, I am not familiar with Oklahoma really at all... I live in Nebraska and am much more familiar with Nebraska and Iowa. Was just pointing out that Evansville Slew is a nice stallion, and in some cases the cost of transport (though maybe not from PA) would be worth it. I myself just sent a mare from Iowa down to Slew City Slew and to me, the transportation costs will hopefully be worth it.

henthorn · Postby **henthorn** » Tue May 22, 2007 6:14 pm

Oklahoma's breeding incentives recently changed, now that the slots money is included in the support. Now they will be having some form of stallion incentives as well as broodmare incentives. If the foal is born elsewhere, but is by an Oklahoma stallion, there is some benefit. I haven't looked into it. The Oklahoma Horse Racing Commission website likely has all the incentives listed.

Mac · Postby **Mac** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:17 pm

Another good sire in Oklahoma is Kipling. They say (the farm) that Kentucky farms are wanting to purchase him...

He doesn't have many foals, but he got a grade one winner (Kipling), another graded stakes horse, and quite a few stakes winners from foals (like 8%) out of below-average mares.

He is out of A.P. Indy's dam line. I just sent a mare from Texas to him...thought he was worth shipping to, and his stud fee (now) is $2,500.

Other nice value sires? Limit Out (I like him too, Griff), Intidab (he is in Kentucky), and he has gotten one graded stakes winner and multiple other stakes winners out of just a HANDFULL of foals.

Strategic Mission is one of those also: he has gotten a grade one winner, a grade two winner, and several other stakes winners out of like 20 foals.

Of course, none of these offer high commercial value...they are just great breed-to-race options.