Well this should help prevent breakdowns - No More 'Roids

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Well this should help prevent breakdowns - No More 'Roids

Postby madelyn » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:39 am

Today's Bloodhorse Now reports that the nationwide ban on anabolic steroids for race horses and sale horses is inching toward becoming a reality.

No more Equipoise.. no more Winstrol. Hurray!
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Re: Well this should help prevent breakdowns - No More 'Roid

Postby diomed » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:44 am

madelyn wrote:Today's Bloodhorse Now reports that the nationwide ban on anabolic steroids for race horses and sale horses is inching toward becoming a reality.

No more Equipoise.. no more Winstrol. Hurray!

Great news!!!!

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Postby Mood Swings » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:08 am

That should level the playing field!
How do you suppose they will regulate this? Mandatory blood tests for all? Or randomn tests?
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Postby madelyn » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:10 am

I imagine it will start with post race testing, as they do now for other substances. They are saying that the clearance time is 30-60 days. But I think they have that wrong! I have had OTTB's come in showing full blown 'roid rage and take upwards of SIX MONTHS for it to wear off.
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Postby Playwithfire » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:13 am

Do steriods in horses act as a performance enhancer? Do they help them run faster? or is it more about recovery from racing and training. Asking as i don't know the effects. I thought they were mainly used to bulk up yearlings and sales horses.

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Postby BridledObsession » Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:32 am

It can't come soon enough. It will be great for the industry as a whole. I hope they are thorough and do it right.

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Postby horsenuts » Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:38 am

BridledObsession wrote:It can't come soon enough. It will be great for the industry as a whole. I hope they are thorough and do it right.



According to experts in human sports endeavors the tests can and are routinely "beat" if one knows the ins and outs of such surrounding the various steriods. Also, I'm not up on all the intricacies of HGH but my understanding is that it is VERY difficult to detect.


It's good that racing is working toward eliminating cheating etc. but the cheaters just keep moving the goal posts in order to stay "a hop ahead".

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Postby madelyn » Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:43 am

Playwithfire wrote:Do steriods in horses act as a performance enhancer? Do they help them run faster? or is it more about recovery from racing and training. Asking as i don't know the effects. I thought they were mainly used to bulk up yearlings and sales horses.


Very high 'roids (testosterone-type) will make a horse VERY MUCH more agressive. They are definitely performance enhancing. They can have the result of making the horse so aggressive he/she will "run through the pain." It is not just bulk and muscle, it is a temperament modifier. Equipoise is worse than Winstrol for making a horse, even a mare!, act totally studdish and very, very aggressive. Hence, the term Roid Rage. It won't make a horse faster unless you count the added muscle, but it will make a horse much more aggressive and, sometimes, competitive.
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Postby diomed » Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:45 am

madelyn wrote:
Playwithfire wrote:Do steriods in horses act as a performance enhancer? Do they help them run faster? or is it more about recovery from racing and training. Asking as i don't know the effects. I thought they were mainly used to bulk up yearlings and sales horses.


Very high 'roids (testosterone-type) will make a horse VERY MUCH more agressive. They are definitely performance enhancing. They can have the result of making the horse so aggressive he/she will "run through the pain." It is not just bulk and muscle, it is a temperament modifier. Equipoise is worse than Winstrol for making a horse, even a mare!, act totally studdish and very, very aggressive. Hence, the term Roid Rage. It won't make a horse faster unless you count the added muscle, but it will make a horse much more aggressive and, sometimes, competitive.

Would it also make them ignore pain causing breakdowns? Just curious..

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Postby madelyn » Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:50 am

That is certainly my theory.

Case in point, I have a mare who came off the track with, not one, but TWO broken knees, and so loaded up on Equipoise it took SIX MONTHS for her to stop attacking everything in sight and finally start to come into heat. No doubt the 'roids were to help her "run past a sore knee."
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Postby Tiz » Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:57 pm

This can't happen soon enough, IMO. Uniform medication rules throughout all the states, very few allowed substances, no steroids.

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Postby KamiBrooks » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:13 pm

would be nice to have an email address where we can send "THE SOONER THE BETTER!" to who ever is in control of this. No reason 2008 can't be 'roid free.

I think all weanling, yearlings and 2yos should be tested prior to sale and bad tests void the sale.

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:16 pm

Why did I think that this thread was about hemorrhoids? LMAO!!!
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Postby KamiBrooks » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:32 pm

Knew it was too good to be true. From the Aug 23rd article I found:

There is a nationwide push for the regulation of four commonly used steroids approved for use by the Federal Drug Administration: boldenone (Equipoise), stanozolol (Winstrol), nandrolone (Durabolin), and testosterone. All other steroids would be banned.


Article is here: http://www.bloodhorse.com/articleindex/ ... p?id=40398

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Postby Mood Swings » Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:09 am

KamiBrooks wrote:would be nice to have an email address where we can send "THE SOONER THE BETTER!" to who ever is in control of this. No reason 2008 can't be 'roid free.

I think all weanling, yearlings and 2yos should be tested prior to sale and bad tests void the sale.



I agree 100%

With regards to steroid use in sales horses - doesn't word get around to prospective buyers about "suspect" owners and agents? If so [B WHY [/B]do people continue to support these "suspect" individuals?!
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