Jelly Roll Romp

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Jelly Roll Romp

Postby hotrod horses » Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:34 pm

Does anyone know where he will be for 2009, I was told 8 stallions were euthanized when they were confiscated in NY.

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Postby Hold Your Peace » Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:55 pm

I hope he survived.

But I also hope he doesn't stand at stud anywhere again.

Standing $4,000 claimers as stallions is how you get to where those people got to.

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Postby walaa » Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:14 pm

:) man take it easy on jelly roll, this is all the farms fault. I was on on their mailing list but I never got one newsletter, go figure, I dont even know when Jelly Roll went to stud or if he has any babies racing, but there are PLENTY of lesser bred stallions with WAY worse racing records standing EVERYWHERE, in every state. I do understand about all the other stallions they were standing, I use to go to the website alot, and I know they got that one Seattle Slew son fron AC4h, but give the old Jelly Roll a break, he was probably the only breedable one they had. Does anyone knwo the story of what happened to the horses at Shenandoah (sp?) equine investments in WV? dennis whats his name got cited for animal cruelty etc, then moved to MD? got involved with some more people, all the starving animals were confiscated, once again, moved to Loudon County in VA, then the 2 other owners were sentenced and old Dennis disappeared, in newpapers, I cant say for sure, but supposedly never showed up for court date. he had a nice Seattle Slew son Sandlot Star, he looked like pure crap in the pics from the animal control, plus Zizou, who they did say was gelded, and adopted out. its unbelievable, I had actually talked to this guy several times on the phone about sending my mare to sandlot star and having himn break and train my then 2 yr old. This was about a year before all that went down. I am SO I didnt do it. I offered to adopt some of the pregnant mares from that seizure, but even though they were starving, and there were half buried horses on the original farm, god forbid, I have 2 strand of barb wire, seperated by 2 strands of electro braid, so I was not considerd a good home for these starving, half dead horses. Sorry, off the track about Jelly roll, but if nothing else, he also was a way better looking stallion than alot of them out there, its a shame what has happened to him and all the horses there.

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Postby hotrod horses » Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:43 pm

From what I understood his owner is from FLA but I don't know his name, or how to contact him. Jelly did earn over $150,000.

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Postby Hold Your Peace » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:24 pm

hotrod horses wrote:From what I understood his owner is from FLA but I don't know his name, or how to contact him. Jelly did earn over $150,000.


It took him seven seasons to accumulate those earnings. The cost of keeping a horse in training for seven seasons is more than that so he still wasn't a profitable racehorse. Of course few are.

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Postby pokeyman » Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:49 am

Kentucky stands stallions that are a lot less accomplished.....

Jelly could be a fine regional stallion and I don't mind they tried to give this particular horse a shot at stud based on pedigree.

Hold Your peace- If you checked out the stallions standing in my state (Massachusetts) you would be horrified!! Jelly looks like a superstar!! :twisted:

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Postby Hotwalker » Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:13 pm

Lycius and River Keen moved to Massachusetts last year. The breeding requirements to become a Massbred are pretty lenient, so you see some Massbreds sired by out of state stallions. Two promient examples of that are Flirt For Fame (Freud), and Ask Queenie (Key Contender). Those two have been raking in a lot of restricted stakes money at Suffolk the last few years.

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Postby Jenny » Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:42 pm

Where did you here that 8 stallions had been euthanized. The article I read said 4 or the 82 had to be put down, but no one said they were stallions. Regardless of the stallions pedigree, race record, He did not ask to be in that hell hole. Poor bastard. I feel so sorry for all of them. :(

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Postby walaa » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:06 pm

I feel for all of them too. I just cant believe people on forums all over the place are sticking up for these people. If it was me you better believe I would be in jail right now, or being lambasted to hell and back by people who dont know me, or being sued to hell and back by everyone who had a horse there, but there seems to be no end of folks who just keep making excuses for this farm. For some reason people everywhere keep giving excuses for this girl. I just dont understand it, esp. when people are saying this has been going on a long time, and they told many others about it. Even the one who said maybe its a weird thing because she is a grown woman living with her mother?? I lived with my mother for the past 3 years, and as soon as she sells her house in VA we will be living together again, hopefully forever, and I'm 43, and you'd better believe if she saw any horse of mine losing weight, she would whip my butt and use her money to bring them up to par, and she helps me now. I have a loser off the track, Duke of Venice, that SHE (my mom)paid 200 for so he wouldnt go to slaughter, just so he could be one of my resell projects, then it turns out he is much more of a project than we thought. Do you think she said anything?? no, after she paid 350 to haul him here, then he was dead lame, SHE then paid 390 for x-rays for him so we could advertise him properly, and will pay for him to have his ankle injected so we can start working him, and bought him a fly sheet, with a mask AND a hoodie, to keep him comfortable, WHEN he ever is rideable enough for me to sell, will help advertise him to the right home, and is helping to pay feed him. Being a grown woman and living or moving with your mom is NOT a bad thing, and surely NO excuse, no matter what is going on for starving animals. Thee is no excuse, period, for this. You cannot look a starving animal in the eyes and continue on like nothing is wrong, and still be a human being, in my opinion.

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Postby hotrod horses » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:06 pm

I actually heard it from Gerry, I called her for a friend of mine who was looking for a mare, I had no idea this was taking place. She actually doesn't think she has done anything wrong and thinks she will get some of the horses back.
I have never been to her "farm" but came close to having her pick up a filly for me in up-state NY 3 weeks ago, thank god I went and picked her up myself.
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Re: easy

Postby Marli » Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:22 pm

walaa wrote:I use to go to the website alot, and I know they got that one Seattle Slew son fron AC4h.

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Ugotta was transitioned from trainer who stated "he hadn't sent a horse to slaughter in 30 years and didn't want to start now"... to Gerry. At the time AC4H didn't have room to bring in a stallion - which we have done often times - gelded them and placed them in approved, protected homes.

Ugotta didn't "go through AC4H" he was never "in our organization". AC4H did however during the transition had Gerry sign a $0 fee Thoroughbred Transitional Agreement in which AC4H would have first right of refusal.

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Postby soundfast » Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:48 am

Jelly Roll Romp was one of 12 stallions according to Gerry's post under Forum Member Stallions. They had varied race records. One stakes winner Dunsinyne 15 sts 5 2 1 $94K set 2 NCR at 11f & 12f. by Kris S. Three stakes placed Halo's Stride 15 4 3 0 $233K,Fini Cassette 57 10 9 4 $202K,& Meadaaar 24 2 4 4 $52K. The highest earner was Max Patch 62 11 16 12 $251K. The lowest earner was Stormin Tiger 18 1 0 2 $11K. Also low earnings Ugotta by Seattle Slew 18 1 1 2 $20K & Skipped Twice 13 1 2 2 $21K. Jelly Roll Romp was 45 6 5 5 $157K. The others are Not A Corgi 25 6 4 3 $71K,Allawinir 14 2 4 0 $67K, and Inklet 35 2 4 8 $47K. Sundance Ridge in MA has 74% winners to runners $56K average earnings per runner 12% stakes winners to foals and 51% black type to runners and they average 27 starts per runner. His stud fee is only $1,000. live foal. I think MA breeders are very lucky to have him. It is a shame he has gotten so few mares.

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Postby Jenny » Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:18 pm

I just got a email about an interview. Apparently I am one of the only people they could find that had actually been to the farm. It was 5 years ago or more but still. So all these people had dealings with Gerry and no one, NOT ONE person had been there. That is a little odd, don't you think? also if I was asking for photos of my baby that had born there for quite some time and none ever surfaced. I would have gone out there to see what the hell was going on. :shock:
When you look at her website. There are only head shots of the stallions unless it is a race photo. You cannot tell me she did not know her horses looked bad. That is proof right there that she did not want anyone to see them. :x

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Postby Crystal » Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:39 am

Flirt With Fame and Ask Queenie, aren't they bred and trained by the same connections. Lloyd and Lori Lockhart. (Who have incredible success with Ma breds!!!) I miss going to Suffolk. (somedays). Not when the wind is gusting 40 off Revere Beach.

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Postby ruaff » Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:37 pm

I miss Suffolk too - but not that much. :D
Sundance Ridge was the man when I was there - and I had a horse with his owner so I got to see him at the farm. They always seemed to do the right thing by the horses.
If I was still there and wanted Mass breds - I'd be looking for him - he was every bit of 17 hands and his horses all seemed to win those restricted races.
Is he still around?