Early patterns of the TB.

diomed · Postby **diomed** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:30 am

Thanks Elles for that link.
I just joined up.

And Pan Zareta, thank you so much for the favor you did for me. :wink:

xfactor fan · Postby **xfactor fan** » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:34 pm

Any news about the analysis of Eclipse and Hyperion?

aethervox · Postby **aethervox** » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:19 pm

xfactor fan wrote:Any news about the analysis of Eclipse and Hyperion?

I found the web site of one of the groups doing the analysis at http://www.mcdonald.cam.ac.uk/projects/genetics/projects/thoroughbreds/index.htm.

There's an update on their site and they say the data is in final analysis.

diomed · Postby **diomed** » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:06 am

This is exciting news! Thanks for the link.

vineyridge · Postby **vineyridge** » Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:30 pm

Can hardly wait for publication of the results.

diomed · Postby **diomed** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:24 am

I wonder is someday, through Y chromosome analysis, if they can EVER find who Eclipse's real father is. Marske or Shakespeare.
Probably not though. I still wonder if that is true and the story has fascinated me for a long time.

Bast · Postby **Bast** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:25 am

Does anyone know if the Australian non-GSB families have a history similar to that of the American families in terms of origin? Were many of them short-bred horses from Ireland and England, or were they brought in from India or other locations closer to Australia?

Are the Polish non-GSB families rooted in Arabian breeding? [People who claim the Polish Arabians are impure will insist many of them trace to Thoroughbreds... :roll:

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xfactor fan · Postby **xfactor fan** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:35 am

Bast,

Have you looked at what the TB Heritage site has to say on the matter?
http://www.tbheritage.com/HistoricDams/ ... Mares.html

Bast · Postby **Bast** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:52 pm

xfactor fan wrote:Bast,

Have you looked at what the TB Heritage site has to say on the matter?
http://www.tbheritage.com/HistoricDams/ ... Mares.html

What I am curious about is if any of these "untraceable" mares are likely to have a background similar to those proposed for the American families. I am nearly through Mackay-Smith's book about Speed and the Thoroughbred and wonder if the Hobby/English runner types reached Australia as well.

Pan Zareta · Postby **Pan Zareta** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:39 pm

Bast wrote:What I am curious about is if any of these "untraceable" mares are likely to have a background similar to those proposed for the American families. I am nearly through Mackay-Smith's book about Speed and the Thoroughbred and wonder if the Hobby/English runner types reached Australia as well.

My first guess would be that less Hobby blood reached Australia than North America simply because the first importations to Austrailia were ~150 yrs later. During those years the source population was materially changed by the Arab, Barb & Turk imports. For a far more informed opinion, scroll down to 'Colonial mares' on the Family Numbers page at bloodlines.net. There's an email link for someone quite knowledgeable re. this matter.

xfactor fan · Postby **xfactor fan** » Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:02 am

Some of the Australian horses have East Timmor Pony as foundation stock. Wouldn't be a surprise to see that show up in the early mares too.