I want revenge's vet bill

[bdw0617]

http://horsetrainingscience.blogspot.co ... ainer.html

[Bast]

http://horsetrainingscience.blogspot.com/2011/01/i-want-revenge-on-my-trainer.html

Nothing will change until someone is wildly successful doing things more like Europe and Australia.

[rudydee]

Thanks for posting.
VERY interesting

[zinn21]

Noted vet Dr. Larry Bramlage was quoted as saying this was a typical prescription for all Derby horses.

If this is typical for all Derby horses, stop the Derby. No wonder the horse had ulcers..

[kimberley mine]

What's far more shocking to me is that there was something obviously wrong with the colt, and yet the owners and trainers persisted.

You don't ultrasound AND inject if everything is yippy skippy.

[Terrapin Flyer]

There really wasn't much on there that was BAD. The majority of the tratments or ultrasounds/x-rays would be accounted for because he has value as a stud & has made a crapload of money & they are taking every precaution. If this horse was not the favorite for the Derby & just a claimer I guarentee 3/4's of those treatments would not have been done.

I treat every horse I run with the same base pre-race treatment of Polyglycon, sodium-iodide jug, bute, lasix, amicar and B1/calcium. Others get more, but the soundest horse in my barn will still get that out of precaution.

[Terrapin Flyer]

No wonder the horse had ulcers

Almost every horse in training has ulcers, & most likely 100% in top barns are treated with gastroguard, succeed or some sort of gut medication.

You don't ultrasound AND inject if everything is yippy skippy

Injecting with Hyluronic Acid is like an oil change for your car, it shouldn't be done every race, but it also isn't like puting steroids or other crap into the joint. If I had G1 horses I would probably x-ray & ultrasound them too, why not make sure the horse is ok before a race or work.

If the horse had a serious problem they most likely wouldn't have sent him out for a blazing bullet 4 days out & eased him into the race instead.

[Crystal]

Not all of those drugs are EYE-WIDENING scary.. and honestly if you had a possible derby contender (and the $$ to support him) wouldn't you do everything to keep him as comfortable as possible?

The horse had swelling/filling in his tendons/ankles..
Bute (Normal)
ok, xrays (check)
xrays showed little, so they did ultrasounds (check)

conclusion.. horse has dry joints..
ankles-injected
Demosaden each time (its a tranq)
tendon sheath injected
(again tranqed)

deworming - powerpack (perfectly NORMAL)

horse was showing a bleeding issue.
(DMSO jug- normal)
(Lasix- normal)

horse was probably precautionarly scoped for ulcers and stomach acid.
banamine -normal
emzimes
vitiamins
gastroguard (which is never cheap)
robinul

all normal.

Baytril is a broad spec antibiotic.. He HAD A JOINT INFECTION.
Liquimycin - a horse brand of Oxytectracyline.

Adaquan -IV joint supplement USED IN EVERY Equine Sport.

Naquasone paste is combination of a corticosteroid and a diuretic to decrease edema, especially useful in joint disease.

This horse was not given steroids, uppers, downers, whatever..

Yes, he should have been taken out of training ASAP and turned out for a year, but it was a possible derby horse that they could throw money at to fix common problems.. It failed.

[Hold Your Peace]

The blogger sounds like a real dip.

His quote:

I, and my clients, WILL prove that you can win in the US without drugs.

End quote.

He should wait until he actually HAS clients and wait until he or they actually HAVE had some success before he starts a blog.

[TJ]

When you have the morning line favorite in the KY. Derby and you're battling a problem that you think is there, but shows no indication after x-rays and ultra sound you did the right thing by the horse. So therafter it would be business as usually....in this case preparing him for the biggest race of his life. After modern science didn't show a problem good old fashioned horsemanship picked up a slight change in the ankle. Instead of saying well the Vets checked him and said he showed nothing....it's probably my imagination. They didn't sweep it under the rug....they did the responsible thing for the horse and scratched him.....not the state Vets, but I Want Revenge' owner and trainer. They did what was right by their horse and tried to get him in the Derby, but when they realized there was a real problem and he could be hurt if he ran, they took him out just hours before race....that had to be a tough decision when you look at the program and see your horse 3-1 in the Derby. I think they should be complimented not picked apart. That blogger is basically uneducated or he would have known most of those meds were for infections and/or ulcers, possible reaction to antibiotics or possible colic. They took the x-ray and ultra sound prior to working him....they were negative so the work went on. It was most likely that final work pushed the leg to a point the problem was able to be detected, a blessing in disquise.
Dr. Bramlage would never have said that the drugs administered to I Want Revenge were common for most Derby participants because they certainly are not....it was comical and probably insulting to the Dr. that this blogger used that as quoting the doctor without showing where he said it. The only thing Bramlage said was I Want Revenge jogged fine, so that means I want Revenge all ready passed the state vet's pre race exam that morning as the scratch came after the examining vet's rounds. TJ

Read the real story:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/m ... index.html

[Sysonby]

I googled "Equine Exercise Physiologist" because I never heard of such a thing and came up with this:

http://www.iceep.org/

It appears that the keynote speaker is a professor of exercise and sports science (presumably human), runs marathons and doesn't have a single equine reference in his background description.

If you have $85, there is a book on Amazon entitled "Equine Exercise Physiology" but what the blogger actually does and what actual services he is offering--I still don't know.

[madelyn]

Geez... wormers, antibiotics, ha, lasix, dmso...

Sorry I think the dude that boasts about his "drug free" clients and training style is an idiot. I wouldn't want to be behind one of his wormy sore infected horses that breaks down on the track...

[zinn21]

terrapin wrote:

Almost every horse in training has ulcers, & most likely 100% in top barns are treated with gastroguard, succeed or some sort of gut medication

I disagree. Those barns who don't run their operation like an assembly line and aren't constantly stressing horses have fewer cases with ulcers.

[Kari]

Whew. This blogger made me giggle. Heaven forbid we condone sedating and deworming a racehorse!

[winds]

I didn't see anything wrong with the vet bill. All standard procedures in my estimation.

winds