Bluesthestandard is officially SCRATCHED . . . . . . .

Tairaterces · Postby **Tairaterces** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:47 am

Swaps1955 · Postby **Swaps1955** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:00 pm

It would be interesting to know the story behind the scratch: L.A. Times handicapper Bob Mieszerski wrote this morning, "let's hope this guy is retired before something tragic happens to him on the race track." The emails to the track, the call to Bob Hess... I wouldn't have wanted to be the vet to approve his racing if he broke down today. Racing doesn't need that kind of publicity, particularly on the second day of the Hollywood Park meet. And Bluesthestandard doesn't have to give his life to prove to people that he loved to race.

Tairaterces · Postby **Tairaterces** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:09 pm

Go to this link: http://finalturn.com/forum/index.php?topic=19603.0

Someone emailed Hess and he called.

Also a new thread was started at same site with update and a home has been promised for Blues.

T

austique · Postby **austique** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:35 pm

Don't read anything into the vet scratch. If the horse was scratched after scratch time the vet is the only one who can scratch him. Typically you would just tell the trainer the horse is colicky which is hard to refute and the vet scratches the horse.

Editted for snarky comment :wink:

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:44 pm

Bob Hess went home before I arrived at his barn. I'll try again on Friday.

Sam · Postby **Sam** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:00 pm

austique wrote:Editted for snarky comment

But I LIKED the snarky comment ... it was so apropos.

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:55 pm

Their is nothing wrong with BTS, he was scratched because the Hess barn got wind of his competition to claim him.

BTS galloped this AM Friday, and went to perfection.

Tairaterces · Postby **Tairaterces** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 2:27 pm

louis finochio wrote:Their is nothing wrong with BTS, he was scratched because the Hess barn got wind of his competition to claim him.

BTS galloped this AM Friday, and went to perfection.

Louis,

Here is a link. Please read each and every post(6 pages) and post back here what you think as to why Blues was scratched.

http://finalturn.com/forum/index.php?topic=19603.0

Best,
Tairaterces
:wink:

austique · Postby **austique** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:02 pm

Aside from that discussion being completely debased by the participants own delusions of sainthood...did anyone stop to think that someone claiming a horse that age would have taken out claim insurance which would have paid had the horse had the injury the above mentioned board is so sure he has despite their being no hard evidence it even exists?

Also, if the horse has a broken sesamoid, he would be so falling down lame everytime he galloped everybody on the track would know it. Unless Hess is blocking him everytime he takes the horse to the track which I assure you he's not.

Simple fact. The man owns the horse and he can dress it up in a tutu and parade through the streets of Kabul if he wants to. He has to live with the consequences and if this was some random mid-level claimer nobody would give a crap.

Heidilady · Postby **Heidilady** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:20 pm

All I know is there's lots of drama and rumor about a horse that may or may not be true but it sure sounds funny to not run a horse due to the rumors, then say he has a cough w/mucus. I'd like to know the truth as far as it involves unsoundness. We have every right to be concerned but I wouldn't wanna go around denigrating someone's character who didn't deserve the slam.

The whole 'it's his horse' crap is just total nonsense. Fans have to watch the race and the possible breakdown. And that remark doesn't even work for a horse in someone's backyard much less on the race track as far as mistreatment goes. Animal welfare groups have to constantly go around begging someone who's putting a horse's life at risk to turn it over for adoption before someone ends up dead be it the horse or rider. If he's fine and happy to run, then people are putting their noses where they don't belong but if he's really not fine, it's looking out for the horse, the sport, the fans, the betters and (pretty importantly) the jockey so I frankly welcome their (better be justified or it's really unfair to the trainer,etc.) concern.

I really don't know what could be the deal with a supposed ghost work. Could he be putting another horse out there and saying it's Blues or finding some way to get a time in there without the horse running? Sounds weird to me. I gathered it's more distrust of the owner that's going on here so would Hess,Jr. even go along with that if it's based on an injured horse?

austique · Postby **austique** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:35 pm

This horse is not being abused and Hess has said publicly the horse will run. As a fan, you have no say what the man does with the horse unless he violates the law. Flat out, it is the track vet's responsibility to assure that the horse is sound enough to run. Much as the racing fan would like to think they are lord and master over what goes on at the track, the responsibility falls on the folks actually footing the bill. Sorry but that is the harsh reality of life.

Heidilady · Postby **Heidilady** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 3:45 pm

austique wrote:This horse is not being abused and Hess has said publicly the horse will run. As a fan, you have no say what the man does with the horse unless he violates the law.

Well animal cruelty would be a law violation and you have no idea if this is the case. Are you Sobel or Hess? No, so you can't vouch for that. Even personal friends of either one aren't fully aquainted with the situation. And how do you know they don't know and are running anyway? Of course they could be totally running a sound horse so I don't think anybody should stick up for them too much or beat down on their reputations too much either. They're big boys and can defend themselves--which Hess did if you read that thread on the other board.

Flat out, it is the track vet's responsibility to assure that the horse is sound enough to run. Much as the racing fan would like to think they are lord and master over what goes on at the track, the responsibility falls on the folks actually footing the bill. Sorry but that is the harsh reality of life.

Well technically the track vet DID scratch the horse..sure Hess might've had him do it for a 'cough' since the time was too close to the race but whatever the reason the horse did get vet scratched. No denying that. Also sorry but I refuse to concede that all owners should be able to run an unsound horse just because they want to and it's their horse. There's a jockey's life on the line (even with a sound horse) so if there's a breakdown their life will be on that scumbag's head that put them in the race on a horse they knew wasn't gonna make it one of these days since he was unsound. If they can sleep at night well goody for them.

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:16 pm

BTS is in good hands and he looks like a young TB, I saw him in his stall and he is alive and well.

When many trainers put in a claim for BTS, you can bet that those trainers were watching BTS in his walk from the barn area to the paddock.

If no trainers wanted to claim BTS that is the red flag signal something is amiss.

louis finochio · Postby **louis finochio** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:21 pm

Hi T: Someone started a rumor and it spread like the plague, dont believe a word of it.

austique · Postby **austique** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 4:36 pm

This is my last post on this topic. I explained above why the vet would have to scratch the horse. Trainers are not allowed to scratch a horse after riders are named without the approval of the track vet. The horse will (depending on the rules in Cali) be placed on the vets list and have to work to the satisfaction of the track vet before he can be entered.

Nobody knows if the horse is unsound and trying to force a man to scratch a horse which he says is sound because somebody told somebody who told somebody's cousin the horse may have a broken sesamoid (an injury that couldn't sustain a work and galloping) is a completely asinine thing to do. What if the horse is perfectly fine? You've just crucified someone who did nothing wrong.

If you have an issue with the way the horse is being managed, buy him and support him. Otherwise, stay out of it. Nobody seemed to have an issue when Baffert was pushing Point Given's crippled ass down the track.