Best 3YO In Training Right Now

Patuxet · Postby **Patuxet** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:23 am

In another thread Whirlaway opines that Soldat is likely the best three year old in training right now.

My vote would go to Premier Pegasus who's just followed up his runaway San Felipe win with a bullet five furlongs in :59 2/5 in preparation for the Santa Anita Derby -- performance that matches bis near-perfect bottom line.

dublino · Postby **dublino** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:59 am

The best 3 yr old in training is Uncle Mo.

He was Champion 2yr old and won the Breeders Cup Juvenile.

Until someone beats him he is the best anyone thinking any different is delusional at best.

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:59 am

dublino wrote:The best 3 yr old in training is Uncle Mo.

He was Champion 2yr old and won the Breeders Cup Juvenile.

Until someone beats him he is the best anyone thinking any different is delusional at best.

I have to agree with this.. i don't know about hte delusional part and all but I think mo is the BEST horse in training for a 3YO. maybe period right now.

I have questions about his lack of being tested, but as far as pure talent, li don't think there is any better. I think there are a few that cOULD be better with some seasoning

ratherrapid · Postby **ratherrapid** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:24 pm

baffert's horse might be faster over distance than Mo. jury out imho.

Georgerz · Postby **Georgerz** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:26 pm

Maybe Dialed In is the best horse in training at the moment.

Bast · Postby **Bast** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:38 pm

Georgerz wrote:Maybe Dialed In is the best horse in training at the moment.

Only with a perfect ride, no traffic issues, and probably no slop.

How many times do you see a stunning drop-from-the-clouds win, only to never see it duplicated? (Zenyatta was very much the exception.)

Joltman · Postby **Joltman** » Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:27 pm

the Factor

And none of the aforementioned will win the Big One in May

jm

zinn21 · Postby **zinn21** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:43 am

Uncle Mo is the best 3yold in training currently.

Coax Me Chad · Postby **Coax Me Chad** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:01 am

Certainly everyone is entitled have an opinion on any matter in horseracing. But if the question is which is the best 3YO by evaluating the body of work, I don't see any way possible you come up with anything other than Uncle Mo.

I don't know if he'll win the roses, and I have hunches about a lot of these. Hunches however, can be based on more than works and PPs. From an evidentiary standpoint, any answer other than Uncle Mo is folly.

madelyn · Postby **madelyn** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:46 am

Whomever is the best three year old in training now will very likely NOT be the best three year old in training come Derby day.

I think one of the things that makes the Triple Crown so HARD to win is the whole "peaking" thing.. Secretariat was not at his peak on Derby day - he was improving. He was at his PEAK on Belmont day.

Whichever three year old who makes the cut, gets a good post position for his running style, gets a good trip on the surface he does well on, who is also the best 3yo that day, will win the Derby.

You cannot convince me that all of the Derby winners, over the past 10 years, were each the very Best horse of their generation.

Toccet02 · Postby **Toccet02** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:51 am

madelyn wrote:Whomever is the best three year old in training now will very likely NOT be the best three year old in training come Derby day.

I think one of the things that makes the Triple Crown so HARD to win is the whole "peaking" thing.. Secretariat was not at his peak on Derby day - he was improving. He was at his PEAK on Belmont day.

Whichever three year old who makes the cut, gets a good post position for his running style, gets a good trip on the surface he does well on, who is also the best 3yo that day, will win the Derby.

You cannot convince me that all of the Derby winners, over the past 10 years, were each the very Best horse of their generation.

Yeah. What she said. Thanks Madelyn--I was thinking this too---and didn't have the energy to post it. Both twins sick today.
To add an original thought of my own . . . notice how Derby winners do not great stallions make, as a rule . . .

dublino · Postby **dublino** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:00 am

madelyn wrote:You cannot convince me that all of the Derby winners, over the past 10 years, were each the very Best horse of their generation.

You Americans don't seem to get it.

The reason for the Derby was that on the same day every year the 3 yr old generation would be tested and the winner of the race was the best of their generation, this seems to be an idea ye lot don't seem to grasp?

Patuxet · Postby **Patuxet** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:26 am

madelyn wrote: "I think one of the things that makes the Triple Crown so HARD to win is the whole "peaking" thing.. Secretariat was not at his peak on Derby day - he was improving. He was at his PEAK on Belmont day."

When did Affirmed peak?

reenci · Postby **reenci** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:11 am

what i want to know is what the hell happened to SOLDAT....did he get hurt or something ? lose his air?...what ?...terrible performance...never mind his trainer said he didnt bring his "A" RACE....my god that race was a C- at best for him.......very quiet in post parade, and into gate for what i could see...mystified me i will tell you... :?:

....no excuses visible...anyone hear anything....TJ....?

reenci · Postby **reenci** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:16 am

dublino wrote:
madelyn wrote:You cannot convince me that all of the Derby winners, over the past 10 years, were each the very Best horse of their generation.

You Americans don't seem to get it.

The reason for the Derby was that on the same day every year the 3 yr old generation would be tested and the winner of the race was the best of their generation, this seems to be an idea ye lot don't seem to grasp?

YES I AGREE ...at that point in time....but then we reshuffle the deck in AUGUST...and deal again in the TRAVERS.....the mid summer derby....which i myself regard as the real race for 3yo's that have grown up and into themselves.....