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Postby oliverstoned » Thu Jan 27, 2011 9:15 pm

Will he ever race again? I see no workouts the last 60 days again.

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Postby KBEquine » Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:03 am

There's a reference on the Paulick report to his having shins & that he should be back in 60 days.

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Postby Derby2004 » Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:25 am

hard to believe Azeri is 13 now. Damn time flies. I find myself wondering about a race with her and Zenyatta

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Postby TJ » Fri Jan 28, 2011 11:09 am

Derby2004 wrote:hard to believe Azeri is 13 now. Damn time flies. I find myself wondering about a race with her and Zenyatta


Hi D,
Her sire Jade Hunter, was recently euthanized due to complications from colic....he was 27 years old. TJ

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Postby reenci » Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:42 pm

Derby2004 wrote:hard to believe Azeri is 13 now. Damn time flies. I find myself wondering about a race with her and Zenyatta



i gotta believe that Z is the best i have seen in decades at the least....that being said....your idea of a match between AZERI and ZENYATTA brought a huge smile to my face as i pictured the two in a race... :D
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Postby bdw0617 » Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:30 pm

as good as Z is, she would have to run her behind off to catch a 4YO Azeri. Not saying she couldn't at all, but saying.. she would defiantly have to bring it.
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Postby pfrsue » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:13 pm

Resurrecting an old thread to say that Take Control had his second win in his second start today at Hollywood Park. Yes, he's...undefeated.

Considering his first start was in 2009, that's pretty wild.

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Postby bdw0617 » Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:43 pm

the one freaking day i do not watch, and he runs rotfl. been waiting for 3 freaking years for this man and i missed it
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Postby louis finochio » Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:14 am

I saw TC in his stall a few weeks ago, he has very robust conformation. He would be my pick of a sale topper. HE has the look of a superior runner, as he is a looker.
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Postby pfrsue » Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:15 am

louis finochio wrote:I saw TC in his stall a few weeks ago, he has very robust conformation. He would be my pick of a sale topper. HE has the look of a superior runner, as he is a looker.


Per his page on this site:

RNA'd for $7.7mil., 2008 Keeneland September yearling sale.
Sold for $1.9 million, 2009 Keeneland sale of 2-year-olds in training.
Won debut race at Santa Anita, December 30, 2009, then was sidelined until June of 2012.
2 Starts: 2 - 0 - 0, $37,400


I've followed him because of his breeding, but up until now this lad has not exactly been the model of a sound, superior runner, Louis. Maybe he looks robust because he's an uncut five year old?

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Postby Jorge » Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:04 am

reenci wrote:
Derby2004 wrote:hard to believe Azeri is 13 now. Damn time flies. I find myself wondering about a race with her and Zenyatta



i gotta believe that Z is the best i have seen in decades at the least....that being said....your idea of a match between AZERI and ZENYATTA brought a huge smile to my face as i pictured the two in a race... :D


What a complicated and perplexing issue this topic of a match!
When we are exposed to these great horse we
know them right in the middle of their racing struggles
racing strategies and racing rivalries. But then when they become
greater than reality we want to isolate them into a match race.
I think a match race is a good idea depending on the racing
style of each contender. If we were to compare, lets say,
(hypothetically) Holy Bull versus Lure, a match race makes sense because both were scintillating speedsters. But with horses like
Zenyatta and Rachel Alexandra their isolation from other runners breaks
the strategy needed to callibrate which horse is the best.
When Dr Fager, Damascus and Buckpasser ran against each other, no match was planned, just normal racing conditions and Dr. Fager demonstrated by far that he was the more superior one.

Regarding Azeri, she may have had, lets say, a fair chance of beating Zenyatta in a match race, but no so, I guess, in a regular race.

As per Take Control...wow what a nice horse. He may well be retired
and go directly to the breeding farm without hesitation. He deserves
much more opportunities than a multi-million dollar failure I know who is producing some foals.

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Postby bdw0617 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:23 pm

take control is /was valenzari the one that RNA'ed for something like 7.7 million or something stupid like that so yeah he was a sales topper

and honestly, I think the filly by ghostzpper that broke her maiden (take control's half sister) on derby day this year is going to be better then him when it's said and done. she can be special.


i have not had a chance to watch it yet. was it a nice win? does he look like a stakes horse?
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Postby bdw0617 » Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:07 pm

faces a tough field in the San Diego today at Del mar against Tres Borrachoes and Rail trip.
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