Could she be palomino or champagne, says chestnut.....

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Could she be palomino or champagne, says chestnut.....

Postby reedhill » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:54 pm

http://www.dreamhorse.com/show_horse.ph ... are_this=Y

Now this is a very INTERESTING "chestnut" TB mare!? Would love to see her in good light. I must go look at her family, hope there are photos.

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Postby accphotography » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:59 pm

I've seen her sire and broodmare sire personally and they are 100% normal. I think it's mostly the lighting that's making her look funny. That and I suspect she's clipped.

The first thing that crossed my mind was actually dun, but seeing her pedigree it's virtually impossible. She's definitely not champagne (skin is too dark) and her color isn't right for palomino IMO.

I sure would like to see more photos.
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Postby Skipitgirl » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:34 am

She has a flaxen mane and tail is all. Not unheard of in chestnuts.

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Postby springboro » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:42 am

THAT's what you get from this profile? A nice color? Did you happen to notice the incredible Reine influence?

Beside the 3 influences of Turn To through his daughters Fast Turn (dam of Ack Ack) and Turn to Talent and son Hail to Reason, this mare is inbred to super reine Too Bald and her dam, Hidden Talent. Beside the half-brothers Capote and Baldski from Too Bald, there is also Too Bald's half sister Turn to Talent.

Additionally, the mare Nothirdchance is featured 5X5 in the pedigree through her son Hail to Reason and daughter Be Suspicious.

AND, she's a pretty color too... but I'm much more impressed with the bloodlines.

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Postby reedhill » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:42 am

Yes, I admit, I didn't get into her pedigree except looking at parent and GP color as I am taking a break at the moment from looking at racing pedigrees, and since she was all the way in WA state, I thought it would just be fun to comment on her beautiful color. I'm happy for you that you discovered all that :wink:

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Postby 7up » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:29 am

I love her racing pedigree as well. Washington is in my backyard :lol:
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Postby reedhill » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:05 pm

She's a flashy AND well bred gal "T", she may go well with Framed In Gold someday! :wink:

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Postby springboro » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:24 pm

well, considering her sire's stud fee is $10,000 and she is an A++ nick, I'd say there was some planning done.

and this from Include's website confirms that someone was aware of this crossing...

"Having reviewed these pedigrees, it would certainly make sense for breeders to send Include mares heavy with the genes of not only War Admiral, Nasrullah, Turn-to (Hail to Reason), and Mahmoud, but also mares that reinforce the Cherokee Rose / How inbreeding found in the pedigree of Broad Brush. Mares carrying Capote or Exceller would not be a bad idea either, as that would reinforce the Hidden Talent inbreeding already found in his pedigree."

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Postby HeadlessHorseman » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:46 pm

Her name says it all....BEING a BLOND :lol:

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Postby reedhill » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:04 pm

7up you should ask her for a conformation photo, you are the closet to her, LOL and let us know if she stacks up to your group or not. :idea:

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Postby reedhill » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:07 pm

http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-245797 just mentioning color again, this little guy is sporting some great different colors!

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Postby reedhill » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:09 pm

He looks more like a light bay to me, with a silver gene with that tail. Looks like his front fetlocks want to be black and not chestnut...........unless he walked through ashes or something black which is doubtful........

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Postby Nessa » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:32 pm

The gelding is probably a wild bay. It lightens up the coat and restricts or eliminates the black on the legs. Nice looking guy though.
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Postby accphotography » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:00 pm

Yeah I've had an extensive discussion about him on another forum and the general consensus is wild bay.
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