Potential Stallion Game

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Potential Stallion Game

Postby zinn21 » Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:30 pm

The following is a game I play all the time. If you had a maximum of $50,000 to spend, what horse currently or recently running would you take a chance at developing as a regional market stallion? The scenario is based on a realistic chance at obtaining said horse for $50,000 or less.

My current fantasy protege is the horse Rushin To Altar. He's a graded stakes placed Pulpit stallion who last raced in November at Hollypark for $40,000.

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Postby CA Michael » Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:39 pm

Can't play this game, zinn. Trade secrets!

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Postby habitat » Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:52 pm

Not sure if he could be bought for 50K but I saw Lovango in the flesh and he is a horse among horses. He came in second the day I saw him and followed with a win 4 weeks later.
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Postby Maven » Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:58 pm

50k is a small price but I keep track of all runners from certain families and these following colts have top female lines by proven stallions and have earned blacktype.

Dark Cheetah, b.c. 02 Storm Cat-Layounne, Mt. Livermore (Busanda line) G3 placed
Storm Surge, dkb.c. 02 Storm Cat-Especially, Mr. Prospector (Soaring line) G3 winner and G2 placed
El Nino, ch.c. 03 Storm Cat-Bay Harbor, Forty Niner (Tinnitus line) G2 placed
Express News, dkb.c. 03 Storm Cat-Catch Me By Nine, Forty Niner (Courtly Dee line) G2 placed
Tompest, gr.c. 03 Storm Cat-Kistena, Miswaki (Mabrova line) Stakes winner


Indy Wind, ch.c. 02 A.P. Indy-Zagora, Kingmambo (Dunce Cap line) Won the Alysheba S. and second in the Skip Away
Patriot Act, dkb.c. 02 A.P. Indy-Classic Value, Copelan (Queen Pat line) Grade 1 placed.
Scipion, b.c. 02 A.P. Indy-Strawberry Reason, Strawberry Road (Helene de Troie line) Won G3 Risen Star
Flanders Fields, b.c. 03 A.P. Indy-Flanders, Seeking the Gold (Cinegita line) Stakes-placed

Free Thinking, b.c. 01 Unbridled-Danka, Strawberry Road (Legendra line) G2 placed
Mustanfar, ch.c. 01 Unbridled-Manwah, Lyphard (Height of Fashion line) G3 winner G1 placed
Harlington, dkb.c. 02 Unbridled-Serena's Song, Rahy (Imagining line) G2 winner

Turnbolt, ch.c. 01 Deputy Minister-Oxford Scholar, Seeking the Gold (Matriculation line) G3 winner
Minister's Joy, b.c. 02 Deputy Minister-Meghan's Joy, A.P. Indy (Glowing Tribute line) Stakes-placed

Confectioniat, b.c. 03 Rahy-Viviana, Nureyev (Miss Carmie line) G2 winner

Tall Story, gr.c. 03 Quiet American-Oil Fable, Spectacular Bid (Northern Fable line) Stakes-placed

Marsh Side, b.c. 03 Gone West-Colonial Play, Pleasant Colony (Patelin line) Stakes winner and track record holder
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Postby Sysonby » Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:49 am

The money isn't really in the upfront cost of buying the stallion. Where it can get expensive is supporting the stallion with sufficiently good quality mares that a market takes him seriously and that may require multiples of $50K when all is said and done.

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Postby zinn21 » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:44 am

Maven, an impressive list. Sysonby your point is well taken. If only I were filthy rich...

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Postby Mac » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:42 pm

Maven,

Indeed an impressive list. I don't follow unproven stallions coming off the track that closely but I watch regional sires for fun and try to guess which ones could be major break-through stallions if they had the opportunity. The female families interest me also. What I find interesting is when a sire gets a graded stakes winner out of his first handful of runners. Tragically so many of these sires never get a strong book of mares later on to see if they could have been major sires. For example, there is a stallion standing named Misnomer up in Canada. I am told he has cancer and not long to live. On of his first runners (he has only had about 8 runners) was Willow O Wisp, a multiple gII winner, track record setter, and man was he ever fast. Misnomer was also very fast judging from his race times, and has two close-up shots of Buckpasser. Could Misnomer have been THE Miswaki son at sire who could have been something special? Hard to know if he only has 8 runners. The sire Strategic Mission is similar, getting Showing Up from his first small group of runners, but at least he is getting enough mares now to see if there are more where Showing Upcame from. It is fun when racehorses come out of nowhere and we are all wondering who the heck is THAT sire...

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Postby Mac » Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:16 pm

Okay, Zinn, back to your interesting concept -


Ra Ra Superstar out of Deputy Minister? Not all that strong of a track performance (multiple allowance winner), but eerily related to Awesome again?

Serrazo out of Kris S? Full brother to You and I? Grade One placed on hurdles, allowance winner on dirt?

Sikorsky out of Deputy Minister? Out of the Best in Show dam family? Only ran once, but exciting pedigree...

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Postby zinn21 » Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:34 am

Serrazo is an interesting selection..