Any Given Sunday to Darley

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Any Given Sunday to Darley

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Postby bdw0617 » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:00 pm

Coolmore better watch out. I like what Darley has done this year Stud wise. In a year with a GREAT 3YO's with interesting pedigrees, they are snatching them up.

Look for Tiago to be next in line


Don't miss out on Zanjero however..

On a different note.... over under on stud fee?

$25k?
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Postby Maven » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:00 pm

Wow. They're just strong arming everyone out of the hot prospects. I'm sure some of the usual suspect Kentucky boys are a lil unhappy.
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Postby brogers » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:07 pm

It looks like they have bought Manduro (by Monsun) in Europe as well.

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Postby bdw0617 » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:07 pm

Maven wrote:Wow. They're just strong arming everyone out of the hot prospects. I'm sure some of the usual suspect Kentucky boys are a lil unhappy.


If I"m not mistaken, the Kentucky Farms won't spend what Ashford (at times) and Darley will.. it's math
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Postby Maven » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:08 pm

That was my point, BDW.

And I know they're also buying young fillies off the track as well. We were given an offer on one of ours. We probably wont pass up on it.
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Postby bdw0617 » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:10 pm

they also bought Admire Moon
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Postby bdw0617 » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:11 pm

Maven wrote:That was my point, BDW.

And I know they're also buying young fillies off the track as well. We were given an offer on one of ours. We probably wont pass up on it.


lemonlime prehaps?
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Postby Maven » Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:19 pm

Perhaps not. :P
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Postby FOS » Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:19 pm

hi bdw0617

You're referring to Any Given Saturday re the following...correct?

bdw0617 wrote:.... over under on stud fee?

$25k?

Very likely OVER.

Unless there's an issue/concern that we are not aware of...I'd expect that it's more than likely (unless he throws in a couple of stinkers and/or something goes awry), that Any Given Saturday will be tagged (initially) with an advertised stud fee in excess of $25,000...possibly MUCH more.

Arguably, if (as his racing career continues to unfold) he captures the imagination and/or performs outstandingly and/or earns an eclipse...the sky could be the limit, don't you think?

On the flip side, even if the wheels fall off, Any Given Saturday is a G1-Haskell winner...that's by a TOP sire (Distorted Humor) and out of an A.P. Indy daughter that's a multiple graded-stakes producer, that's out of a stakes-winning Spectacular Bid daughter who not only produced a couple of graded runners (including Second of June) but is also a half-sister to a number of good (or better) stakes winners, including G1 winner Afifa and the good (and well regarded by many) sire Auction Ring.

A pretty nice package, don't you think?

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:27 pm

This confirms that the Tampa Bay Derby is a breeder's race.
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Postby bdw0617 » Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:28 pm

so what.. 26k? :lol:

I just don't see him winning another grade 1. Also it's about Value. He is a nice colt, but the thought of breeding to him doesn't knock my socks off like some of the higher priced stallions do. The pricing of other stallions keeps fees somewhat in check. That 30-50k Area is very, very stout... it takes more than a grade 1 to get in there.

also when you are getting in the 50k range, you are talking about making a profit in sales rings. To make a reasonable profit you would have to avg about 90k per foal... some people might think that.. I'm not one of them.

Another point... Remember, Darley will more than likely have Street Sense, Hard Spun & admire moon as the new kids on the block. HOw refereshing it would be to get Admire Moon over here in the States.. but that wouldn' thappen
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Postby Rokeby Forever » Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:00 pm

Who's going to train Any Given Saturday now? You know Darley won't keep him in Coolmore's barn any more - they yanked Henny Hughes away from Pat Biancone.
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Postby bdw0617 » Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:20 pm

Rokeby Forever wrote:Who's going to train Any Given Saturday now? You know Darley won't keep him in Coolmore's barn any more - they yanked Henny Hughes away from Pat Biancone.


I would think Bin Suroor, as he's in NY

Not like that's much better...
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Postby Indychase » Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:27 pm

Rokeby Forever wrote:Who's going to train Any Given Saturday now? You know Darley won't keep him in Coolmore's barn any more - they yanked Henny Hughes away from Pat Biancone.


They just bought breeding rights. Nothing will change as far as the few starts left in his racing career.