Exact date of foaling

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Exact date of foaling

Postby Jorge » Tue May 03, 2011 7:04 pm

Does anyone know the exact date when Native Dancer was foaled?
I came across this data:

http://community.tvg.com/t5/History-and ... d-p/172707

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Postby Patuxet » Wed May 04, 2011 4:07 am

Jorge:

The article states he was born March 27, 1950, near Lexington KY. Are you questioning that or looking for an actual hour of birth for some astrological mumbo jumbo reason?
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Re: Exact date of foaling

Postby Jorge » Wed May 04, 2011 7:29 am

Jorge wrote:Does anyone know the exact date when Native Dancer was foaled?


Exact date!

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Postby Patuxet » Wed May 04, 2011 8:44 am

How can a date be any more exact than March 27, 1950?

Do you suspect March 27 is not the correct date? And if so, why?
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Postby Jorge » Wed May 04, 2011 5:30 pm

The official generic (?) date of January 1, 1950 doesn't seem to be the exact date on a horse that allegedly was foaled a month late, as history seems to recall. But before taking side with the article, be aware that Native Dancer was not a descendant of The Tetrarch as the article inaccurately seems to suggest. In spite of that, the March 27 date of the article seems to be the correct date because there seems to be a (controvertible) presumption of correctness in providing such a specific date. Anyway, if there is an error somewhere, it deserves correction.

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Postby Patuxet » Thu May 05, 2011 9:54 am

I take your point about The Tetrarch.

I suggest you address your concerns to the Jockey Club: [email protected]

Other than AG VAnderbilt's son, also named AG Vanderbilt, John Sparkman is the most knowledgeable I know about Native Dancer: [email protected]
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Postby Jorge » Thu May 05, 2011 12:26 pm

Jorge wrote:, if there is an error somewhere, it deserves correction.


I don't know if there is an error that can be attributed to one entity
or to the other. All I can express is that there are two quite different
internet sources showing two different dates of birth on the same horse.
But since the horse is not any horse, but one of the greatest horse of all times I would like to know if there exists additional factual information clarifying this issue.

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Postby Lucy » Thu May 05, 2011 5:55 pm

Jorge, if you are getting the January 1 birthdate from BRISnet or Equineline, please bear in mind that those online databases do not contain exact birthdates for horses foaled prior to 1955. Any horse you look up that was foaled in earlier years will show the default birthdate of January 1.

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Postby Jorge » Fri May 06, 2011 8:25 am

I haven't specified any institution but I guess we all like that every data made public be exact and worth the trust of the public. Even more, depending on the caliber of the organization.