Best crosses for a Chiefs Crown mare?

[Keith]

What crosses with Chief's Crown?

Grand Lodge by Chief's Crown-La Papegena by Habitat
4x4 Somethingroyal through Secretariat and Sir Gaylord

Istidaad by Chief's Crown-Mazzei Mood by Roberto
5x5 Nasrullah
5x5 Princequillo

Azzaam by Chief's Crown-Princess Oola by Al Hattab
4x5 Nasrullah

Be My Chief by Chief's Crown-Lady Be Mine by Sir Ivor
4x4 Somethingroyal
4x5 Nasrullah
5x5 Nearco

Freemason by Grand Lodge-Sashed by Sir Tristram
4x4 Sir Gaylord
5x5x5 Somethingroyal

Grandera by Grand Lodge-Bordighera by Alysheba

Sinndar by Grand Lodge-Sinntara by Lashkari
Chief Bearheart by Chief's Crown-Amelia Bearheart by Bold Hour
3x4 Bold Ruler
4x5 Nasrullah
5x5 Nearco

Chief Honcho by Chief's Crown-Expressive Dance by Riva Ridge
3x5 Native Dancer

Concerto by Chief's Crown-Undeniably by In Reality
4x5 Bold Ruler
5x5 War Relic

Bellamy Road by Concerto-Hurry Home Hillary by Deputed Testamony
2nd dam by Cozzene

Crowned by Chief's Crown-Fair Rosalind by Exclusive Native
2nd dam by Bold Hour
4x4 Bold Ruler
4x5 Native Dancer

Best Of Luck by Broad Brush-Crowned by Chief's Crown
4x4 Turn-To
5x5 Bold Ruler

Erhaab by Chief's Crown-Histoire by Riverman
4x5 Nasrullah
5x5 Nearco
5x5 Princequillo

Eddington by Unbridled-Fashion Star by Chief's Crown
2nd dam by Sir Ivor
5x5 Somethingroyal
5x5 Aspidistra

Coral Reef by Big Reef-All The Crown by Chief's Crown
2nd dam by Alydar
5x5 Somethingroyal
5x5 Bold Ruler

Gold Tiara by Seeking The Gold-Bright Tiara by Chief's Crown
4x4 Native Dancer
out of a full sister to Chief Honcho

Crowned Dancer by Tactical Advantage-Caveat Apt by Chief's Crown
2nd dam by Caveat
4x5 Raise a Native
5x5 Bold Ruler
5x5 Nashua

Classic Time by Sky Classic-Cecilia Tudor by Chief's Crown
3x4 Northern Dancer
5x5 Nearco

Agnes Digital by Crafty Prospector-Chancey Squaw by Chief's Crown

Powder by Broad Brush-Charette by Chief's Crown
4x4 Turn-to
4x4 Northern Dancer

Mythical Gem by Jade Hunter-Charlotte Augusta by Chief's Crown
4x5 Northern Dancer

Crowning Meeting by Excellent Meeting-Fitted Crown by Chief's Crown
4x5 Northern Dancer
5x5 Bold Ruler

Take The Cake by Fly So Free-Lil Merry Sunshine by Chief's Crown
3x4 Damascus
5x5 Bold Ruler

Sunshine Street by Sunshine Forever-Meadow Spirit by Chief's Crown
3x3 Graustark

Willard Straight by Lion Cavern-My Reem by Chief's Crown
3x4 Secretariat
5x5x5 Nasrullah
5x5 Princequillo

Scorpion by Seattle Slew-Petiteness by Chief's Crown
4x4 Hail To Reason
4x5 Bold Ruler
5x5 Nasrullah

Dazzle Me by Tactical Cat-Social Girl by Chief's Crown
4x4 Secretariat
4x4 Northern Dancer
3x5 Raise A Native
4x5 Swoon's Son

Linebreeding Bold Ruler and Somethingroyal seem to be successful

Keith

[bcassidy]

I know he is dead now but I would have love to see what she would have produced if she were bred to Machiavellian. Is there anyone else standing where you live with a similar pedigree. I love the Mr P on the top, with the halo and hoist the flag in the mix. From a pure pedigree stand point I think that is a direction I would go in. Hope that helps. Brendan.

[Patuxet]

Since the mare is UK-based I would recommend these stallions, each of which is out of a Habitat mare and would provide the proven and desirable inbreedings to Somethingroyal and Northern Dancer plus further reinforcement of Coco La Terreur's sire, Nearctic. Whether they fit conformationally is entirely another matter.

Grape Tree Road stands in England and won the G1 Grand Prix de Paris. He's sired by Nijinsky's classic son Caerleon and comes from a strong bottom line developed by the Aga Khan that traces back to Mumtaz Mahal. He's the sire of G1 Gorella whose pedigree also features the same 4X4 to Northern Dancer and 5X5 to Somethingroyal. And doesn't a horse named "Crown Road" sounds like a sure winner?

Barathea stands in ireland, won the G1 Irish Guineas and the BC Mile. He's a well-proven proven G1 sire by the epochal Sadlers Wells and his stud fee is probably sky high.

Kutub stands across the channel in France, won the G1 Pries von Europa and is by Sadlers Wells' multiple G1 son, In The Wings. He's just getting going at stud.

Good luck with your good mare.

Archer

[Keith]

Stallions to consider

Azamour by Night Shift-Asmara by Lear Fan winner of four Group I races Saint James Palace S., Irish Champion S., Prince Of Wales S.,King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Diamond S., etc.

With this cross you would get
3x4 Northern Dancer
3x5 Ciboulette

Medicean by Machivellian-Mystic Goddess by Storm Bird

With this cross you would get
3x4 Mr. Prospector
4x4 Northern Dancer
5x5x5 Natalma

Shamardal by Giant's Causeway-Helsinki by Machiavellian
He is out of a full brother to Street Cry

With this cross you would get
4x5 Secretariat
4x5 Northern Dancer
4x4 Mr. Prospector


Motivator by Montjeu-Out West by Gone West

With this cross you would get
4x4 Northern Dancer
4x4 Mr. Prospector
4x5 Secretariat
5x5 Buckpasser

Keith

[Patuxet]

Two more stallions to consider:

Xaar x Zafonic - Monroe, Sir Ivor

Won Dewhurst S. (G1), Prix de la Salamandre (G1), Prix de Cabourg (G3), Craven S. (G2); 2nd Eclipse S. (G1), Prix Morny (G1), Prix Guillaume d'Oranano (G2); 3rd Irish Champion S. (G1), Prince of Wales 's S. (G2); 4th English 2000 Guineas (G1). CH 2YO & 3YO (Eng.) Unclear whether he stands 2007 in England or France.

Bred to Crown Of Spring yields:
4x4 Mr. Prospector
5x4 Secretariat
5x4 Northern Dancer
5x5 Nearctic
5x5 Somethingroyal

Vettori x Machiavellian - Air Distingue, Sir Ivor

1st Poule díEssai des Poulains Gr.1 (Fr). 3RD St James's Palace S. Gr.1 (GB). Again unclear where he stands 2007, either Ireland or France.

Bred to Crown Of Spring yields:
3x4 Mr. Prospector
5x4 Northern Dancer
5x5 Natalma
5x5 Somethingroyal
5x5 Nearctic

[Bill from WA]

Hi

Taking one more look at Domedriver (conduit mare, Torpenhow). This mating would provide a 4x4 male/female cross of Northern Dancer through the mare, Bella Senora and the stallion, Danzig. Bella Senora traces to the conduit mare, Torpenhow, ancestress of Nijinsky II, The Minstrel, El Gran Senor, Jazil, and Broodmare of the Year, Best In Show.
Domedriver and Nijinsky II trace to Torpenhow through her daughters, the half sisters, Summit and Herd Girl. Summit was sired by the Commando son, Ultimus, while Herd Girl was sired by the Commando son, Colin. The hypo mating would also offer a 5x5/5 cross to Nearctic, a 5x5 cross to Buckpasser, and 6x6/6 to Native Dancer. There is no close up inbreeding, however, starting with the conduit mares within a 4 generation pedigree and moving forward, this mating creates a powerful genetic cocktail from a pedigree and conduit profile perspective, that might produce a good one if the individuals are a good conformational match. I think Domedriver holds promise as a sire.

Bill

[GreenThumb]

Hi,

You should take a look at comeonmom at readingfarm.com
Got halo, sir ivor, hatchet man (danzig likes mahmoud), and stage door johnny, he is also tail female to the family of the doge, sire of swoons son.

Chris

[GreenThumb]

Another interseting aspect is if you cross comeonmom's female family back you can get results like housebuster

Chris

[bcassidy]

Greenthumb--- I believe the mare is overseas.