Trainers who train off the farm

[pokeyman]

Hi! We are always looking for more trainers that train off the farm and ship in to race to allow us to place our horses in the most competitive area for them.

We prefer the East Coast or Midwest.

Trainer should be solid horsemen/woman and have a 1/2 mile gallop (not necessarily a track) and 24/7 turnout.

Any suggestions........

[merse]

have you tried Michael Dickinson at www.tapeta.com?

[pokeyman]

have you tried Michael Dickinson at www.tapeta.com?

Yeah but he only turns out for a 1 to 2 hours and I am looking for 24/7 turnout.

We have a trainer in NJ and MI but looking for another one in the Mid-Atlantic, New England, or NY area.....

[BJ]

[MidwestTrainer]

Just curious as to which trainers you use, if you could let us know. Don't know of anybody that meets your criteria. Sorry.

[amanda1]

We have a farm in Northeast ohio, about 25 minutes from Thistledown, 75 minutes from Mountaineer. We do train off the farm primarily and do some breeding, both to sell and race.

We have many turn-out options available, from small 60 x 60 paddocks for the greenies to large pastures for the mares and foals. We customize turn-out to suit each horse. I must say I take offense to some of the posts that have been negative about your chances of finding what you are looking for. We have 2 employees that live on the farm full-time and our horses are very well cared for and supervised.

We have a 6 horse Equiciser that we jog the horses on daily, up to 4 or 5 miles for the fit horses. They run very well fresh off this machine. We also can arrange trips to the track for breezing and for clocked works when needed. Horse that are stalled get out to walk or jog every single day. The turn-out horses are brought in, groomed, checked, exercised, bathed, clipped, and put back out. We can turn horses out alone or with others, all horses have separate feed tubs spaced apart and we do not allow any horse to bully any other horse.

All services are included in the day rate, we do not nickle and dime you every time we look at your horse. The day rate includes all daily care, exercise, grooming, bathing, turn-out, high quality feed, our stalls are immaculate, etc.

We are the farm of choice for Dr. Ron Genovese when he has clients that need to board their horses in town during treatment (we have his IRAP horses now), and his brother keeps his horses with us as well.

If you would like any additional info please feel free to PM me and I will try to answer any questions.

Good Luck.

[CA Michael]

Amanda, I like the sound of your approach. Dr. Genovese has done some work for me in the past and I trust his work. I thought he passed away--apparently not!!! You have a pm from me.

[pokeyman]

have you tried Michael Dickinson at www.tapeta.com?

Yeah but he only turns out for a 1 to 2 hours and I am looking for 24/7 turnout.

We have a trainer in NJ and MI but looking for another one in the Mid-Atlantic, New England, or NY area.....

You are looking for something that probably doesn't exist.

1. It takes time, help, and great risk to animal and help, to turn horses out in a large enough paddock, that it makes a difference to them, by way of "freedom".


2. Farms with big enough paddocks for 24/7 turnout will have other horses in them. Other horses will kick, bite and run your horse into a fence, feed bin or hole in the ground, and any number of things that will injure or end its chances for a racing career.

A horse in training is MUCH MORE AGRESSIVE than a horse just on "kick back turnout".

3. A horse that gets turned out in a sun pen for an hour or two a day, by himself, is MILES ahead of 99.9% of the other horses being trained...especially at most of the cheaper tracks!

Perhaps your BEST way of determining if 24/7 training turnout is what you want, would be to come up with someone who actually does that, and then see how successful they are, as well as how conveniently located they are. In California, there are training farms, but rarely will you see any horses "in training" on 24/7 turnout. It just isn't generally feasible, let alone a good idea.

That's a sad myth. All of our racehorses are always turned out 24/7.

They get to live like horses who just happen to race and guess what...we have stakes horses too.

When they have always been turned out they are use to it. Yeah, if you take a racetrack horse who hasn't been turned out since it was a yearling you will have problems.

Also, I don't know of any steeplechase horses who aren't turned out most if not all of the day.

It's too bad for the horses when people think this way.

[pokeyman]

Just curious as to which trainers you use, if you could let us know. Don't know of anybody that meets your criteria. Sorry.

We use Janet DelCastillo in FL; Sharon Huston in NJ, and Leslie Bickel in Michigan. Nicole Holst also meets the criteria but we haven't used her yet.

[pokeyman]

Amanda...I sent you a pm.

[Denise]

Pokeyman,
Look for a PM from me.

[BJ]

[Tucumcari]

What stakes horses do you have that are turned out 23/7? That would be an interesting thing to know and to point to in trying to convince folks in CA to do something along those lines.[/quote]

Hand raised.... I have the answer to the question...!!!!
NONE.

[ak1]

Does Country Life Farm at their Merryland division offer this?

[Shammy Davis]

Just read an interesting article about MCDYNAMO, a steeplechase Eclipse winner, who responded exceptionally well to long periods of turn out at his trainer's PA farm. Apparently, he was claustrophobic as a juvenile, ran on the flat as a juvenile with little success to 3, and then his owner put him to jumps. His T/O regimen has been maintained and he is still winning. Not exactly the same as the flat runner, but something to think about. Think the article was in one of the latest editions of the Chronicle of the Horse.