My Snookie's Boy

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My Snookie's Boy

Postby Toccet02 » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:04 pm

according to the dbase was euthanized on March 11?
Can anyone confirm or deny?
I certainly heard nothing.
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Re: My Snookie's Boy

Postby myheartsezyes » Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:46 pm

Toccet02 wrote:according to the dbase was euthanized on March 11?
Can anyone confirm or deny?
I certainly heard nothing.
Yes, he was he broke his leg My business partner talked with David Fawkes who claimed Snookie and they had to put him down when he got back to the barn. Snookie was trained by my boss when he finished 2nd to Lion Heart. I also emailed bloodhorse to do something on him but I never heard back.

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Postby Toccet02 » Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:04 am

:(
No press! He was a top earner for Crafty Friend.
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Re: My Snookie's Boy

Postby dondogs » Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:51 am

myheartsezyes wrote: I also emailed bloodhorse to do something on him but I never heard back.


I emailed Thoroughbred Times, no reply either.

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Postby Swaps1955 » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:00 am

I have written the Blood-Horse about doing something on these wonderful old horses that get ground into the dirt. They would rather deal with the stakes horses and the glamour horses/people than the day-to-day horses that make up most of the fields. And racing really doesn't want to deal with fatalities and breakdowns. it's the elephant in the living room. Lots of lip service and relatively little action. One would think that with the number of high powered, very influential, monied people in racing that something could get done legislatively like a percent of the purse going to care/treatment/euthanasia of racing/performance horses after retirement, etc.

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Postby Toccet02 » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:11 am

I agree. That seems to be the truth of it.
Well, I'm upset by it.
Sorry he got to a 10K claimer or whatever it was.
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Postby dondogs » Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:30 am

It was a $13,000 race, he was running for a 10K tag.

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbPDFC ... E=1&BorP=B
if you want the chart save it, the link is only good for a couple more days.

Chart simply states he was pulled up, vanned off, like so many before him. I have been recording these since December 8th, and it's incredible how many get pulled up. Unless word gets out we never know.

a couple of links I found . He was up with the best of the year in 2004
http://www.chef-de-race.com/pfs/ten_bes ... r_3yos.htm

http://www.jockeysite.com/jphotos/fotos/lionheart.htm MSB on the rail

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Postby Stevie Belmont » Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:29 am

He has in fact been put down. It's been on other boards. I remember his gutsy 2nd place finishes to Lion Heart in the Long Branch and Haskell, although he got me a bit nervous in the Haskell as I had a nice win bet on Lion Heart. Iwinski had him before he took his break. He than went to Walder who ran under both the Pete adn Francine if my memory serves correct. Than Contessa had him for awhile. I guess he than went to Florida. His form was way of for a long time. He really droipped through the ranks. Sad ending for this guy.

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Postby Stevie Belmont » Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:30 am

Stevie Belmont wrote:He has in fact been put down. It's been on other boards. I remember his gutsy 2nd place finishes to Lion Heart in the Long Branch and Haskell, although he got me a bit nervous in the Haskell as I had a nice win bet on Lion Heart. Iwinski had him before he took his break. He than went to Walder who ran under both the Pete and Francine if my memory serves correct. Than Contessa had him for awhile. I guess he than went to Florida. His form was way of for a long time. He really dropped through the ranks. Sad ending for this guy.

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Postby geowarrior » Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:53 pm

I pulled his record for a research project. It looks like the writing was on the wall for him Sep 06 when he was dropped by Contessa from 35k claiming to 16k claiming. He was eighth by 28 & 1/2 lengths in that race and was claimed out of it. He won a 12.5k claimer in Dec. 2006 at Crc, five and a half furlongs, and placed in the following race, also a sprint, this time at Gulfstream Park where he stayed from then on. He managed a second at a mile in a 10,000 claimer in late February and he was claimed out of that race. On March 1st he worked 4f in 53 (21/21), and on 11th March he appeared for the first time in front bandages, and this was the race in which he broke down (and as an earlier poster said, he was claimed out of that one also).

He had 38 lifetime starts with earnings of $401,723 and a record of 7-7-3. He had a heavy race schedule in the latter part of his life, running on the 3rd Jan, 24 Jan, 09 Feb, 21 Feb, 11 Mar 2007. However, I think those races with Lionheart, memorable as they were, could have been the beginning of his undoing as he had several big runs close together at that time, on the 5th and 27th of June '04, the 17th July and the Haskell on 8th August of that year and then in his next race, a G2 on 6th September he finished 10th by 21 and a quarter lengths. He went downhill from there but showed signs of improvement when he went to Bill Mott's barn (from the Walders) for four races, but after being claimed into Patrick Reynolds barn in March 06, that was it.

All in all he was claimed six times in his lifetime. Everybody seems to have wanted him, it's too bad some of his conditioners couldn't have valued him enough to let him rest.

Well, I guess he's resting now.

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Postby Toccet02 » Tue Mar 20, 2007 1:08 pm

A very sad downhill story.
I have a soft spot for Crafty Friend and have looked out for his progeny, which was how I noticed.
Thanks for the info. I hate to see them crash and burn like this.
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Postby myheartsezyes » Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:03 pm

I am very sad over Snookie I think Allen would have given him the break he needed. I don't have much to say about Walder and his training techniques. Maybe a mistake transferring to him? But that being my own opinion. I have worked for him in the past but won't go into details. It is a shame but now he is in peace.

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Postby geowarrior » Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:44 pm

Well certainly on paper the transfer to Walder looks like a mistake. The pre-Walder trainer was resting My Snookie's Boy, looked like he realized that some break was in order.

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Postby rudydee » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:43 pm

Myheartsezyes:

You have worked for Michael Gill AND Peter Walder????
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Postby BJ » Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:16 pm

This is still a better ending, IMO, and unfortunately, than ending up at slaughter.

Maybe...and I'm certainly not making any excuses for the trainers or the owners that run these old class horses to this end... but just maybe, these horses are raced to the end to prevent making that choice.

Maybe, when the internet "keyboard jockeys" get busy providing incentive AND opportunity (to the connections and the horse) for a different outcome, such as with Shake You Down, it truly is a win/win all the way around.

Maybe that is what most people would really PREFER...an opportunity for BETTER CHOICES.