Tampa Bay Derby GSV numbers

[George William Smith]

PP Horse............. 2007GSV..2007GSV2
1 Optimistic Steve:......65.17.....65.64
2 Street Sense:...........74.29.....75.85
3 All I Can Get............59.88.....59.88
4 Any Given Saturday..70.75.....71.78
5 Most Distinguished....67.82.....69.91
6 Lisselan Muse...........64.83.....65.16
7 Delightful Kiss..........63.59.....66.31

[madelyn]

All I can say is.....



GO STREET SENSE!!!]

[Sam]

All I can say is.....



GO STREET SENSE!!!]

cough... Delightful Kiss

[geowarrior]

Oh let's root for the GSV underdog - All I Can Get.

[galleria10]

What a race!!!!!!!
WTG street

[Sam]

So it's not like I was delusional enough to think DK was really going to beat those two but DAMNIT! I hate ugly breaks. He might have finished closer if he'd not taken that right turn when the gates opened. I was surprised he got third, thought he was done on the turn.

[geowarrior]

What? Did I miss it?

[Sam]

What? Did I miss it?

Street Sense and Any Given Saturday ran it tight to the wire and broke the track/stakes record to do it. Delightful Kiss third, maybe 5 lengths back (could have been closer but he took a right turn from the gate and ran dead last until the last 2f).

[geowarrior]

Sam wrote:

Street Sense and Any Given Saturday ran it tight to the wire and broke the track/stakes record to do it. Delightful Kiss third, maybe 5 lengths back (could have been closer but he took a right turn from the gate and ran dead last until the last 2f).

Thanks Sam. I don't know what I was thinking, but I thought it was on ESPN, but that's the Rebel and the San Felipe. Sounds like a great race and I got 10 more points, which I badly needed, on the Road to the Roses competition. Now if only Teuflesberg can put in a good run I'll surely move up from 15 thousandth position in the contest.

What was the winning margin for Street Sense?

[Sam]

What was the winning margin for Street Sense?

About a whisker Officially a nose then 6.25 back to DK.

Crap.. that Run to the Roses contest is already going? Totally forgot to get mine set up. Oh well.

[Heidilady]

I don't know what I was thinking, but I thought it was on ESPN, but that's the Rebel and the San Felipe.

It was on ESPN, at the beginning of the coverage. They did it tape delay. Of course once I realized the race was already over I ran over to Bloodhorse.com to smoke out who won. I just think Street Sense is a fun horse to watch be brought along. Some trainers might botch this royally but Carl's gonna handle this the best it can be it sounds like. New track record in his 3yo debut, 2yo champ with a record margin and graded stakes placings to some top contenders prior to that. If he actually keeps it up wouldn't this be really the old school kind of deal? A big 3yo that had was obvious 2yo which is less common nowadays--you have your Point Given, Afleet Alex,etc but it's more unusual.

Would be kinda fun if it was a AGS and SS rivalry.

[geowarrior]

Yes I did finally see it on ESPN. What a great performance by the first two horses. And Sam, I thought that with the speed shown by the first two and the execrable start of Delightful Kiss, DK is a horse to watch for the future. Getting up for third was no mean feat. Not to mention that D.K. was the only one to outrun his gsv - the original topic of this thread!

Now Jerry Bailey is worried that Street Sense might not come out of such a hard race in good shape.

[zinn21]

I liked the way SS galloped out and pulled up. Nafzger was looking for a deep conditioning race and he got it. See his online interview at the Bloodhorse website.

[Rokeby Forever]

Carl Nafzger is trying to over come the BC Juvie curse, but he added another one today - no winner of the Tampa Bay Derby has ever won a Classic race. Before you say, "No prior winner was as good as Street Sense," take a look at the list of winners over the last 15 years - you'll see Grade 1 winners on it.

[Heidilady]

Carl Nafzger is trying to over come the BC Juvie curse, but he added another one today - no winner of the Tampa Bay Derby has ever won a Classic race. Before you say, "No prior winner was as good as Street Sense," take a look at the list of winners over the last 15 years - you'll see Grade 1 winners on it.

*snort* You can't be serious. With a handful of exceptions, the quality of the fields in this race has been lackluster (oooh Burning Roma, Pineaff, and Region of Merit, oooh I'm super excited to see them win the roses) and I didn't expect the horses you're referencing to win the Derby whatever anybody else might've thought (seriously Sun King and Deputy Glitters were not gonna do it) so it's not like the Derby favorites have won here then lost the Derby. The highest level Derby horses seldom run in this race. Street Sense entered and in this case happened to win, big deal it's just a minor prep.. his trainer was using it to tune up so they actually weren't obsessively trying to win--a loss was quite possible and they wouldn't have lost sleep over it. AGS did well enough if he pulled off a Derby win would you still think there's some jinx? But for a nose bob?

This was most certainly the strongest group--just by virtue of SS and AGS--to run in this race. It's never drawn the 2yo champ before unless said horse finished off the board and it doesn't come up on the records I have access to. Nafzger's training led him to at least pretend that he thought his horse might not be fit enough although I suspect he knows he's got the talent, he just was trying to keep him from being so tightly would he'd hurt himself or peak right now. The horse was just so good he couldn't help feeling good, trying real hard in spite of what they wanted, and winning anyway.

The BC Juvenile is a race you point for. So is the Derby. I doubt anybody's gonna try for the Tampa Bay Derby/Kentucky Derby double with any real level of excitement. There are a huge number of races probably never won by the Derby winner. Doesn't mean squat unless it were like the Wood Memorial level. That'd be cause for concern. This particular G3? Who cares?