Anyone had calls from Dubai about horses you have for sale?
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Karie
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Anyone had calls from Dubai about horses you have for sale?
ok its not a scam. so I deleted all this info
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Karie
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ok update..
http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/InquiryByTrainer.cfm?trainer_no=2194
This person is real.. but was it really him calling me....
Any advice? Anyone..?
I don't trust anyone at all.. EVER. I work at a police Dept and know better
http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/InquiryByTrainer.cfm?trainer_no=2194
This person is real.. but was it really him calling me....
Any advice? Anyone..?
I don't trust anyone at all.. EVER. I work at a police Dept and know better
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Bill from WA
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I would be very skeptical. This sounds like another version of a scam that has been going on for years. If there is any way to contact a disinterested third party in Dubai to verify the information, I would try that first before sending any personal data.
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Karie
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the number to fax is different.. it came up a 971 # on my cell..
the fax number is 13 numbers long.
00971 and then other numbers (I am not posting the entire #)
and he wants my account # and pictures.
I have someone checking him out. I actually know someone who has contacts in Dubai... So I will post more later.
the fax number is 13 numbers long.
00971 and then other numbers (I am not posting the entire #)
and he wants my account # and pictures.
I have someone checking him out. I actually know someone who has contacts in Dubai... So I will post more later.
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Skipitgirl
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To send a wire transfer, he will need your ABA routing number and account number, along with the name the account is in. If that is all the info he wants, and he is not trying to send a certified or cashiers check for more than $3,000, he probably is legit. You might call your bank tomorrow and ask them to call you when the wire comes in. Sometimes it can take longer than it should.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....
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KamiBrooks
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Okay, you ABA, account# and name on account is all they need to WITHDRAW money from your account. NEVER send this. If he is real, tell him that you prefer the money sent to a local wesern union for pick up, or open a separat account for them to use. For the $10 it would cost you to open/close the account, it is better than having your account flattened.
DO NOT SEND YOUR ACCOUNT INFO (of even part of it). IF they are a real bloodstock buyer, then they would only be rushed by you. If you don't have another buyer in the wings, then they should not feel rushed. it isn't like a few additional days is going to put the colts training schedule off.
I hope it is a legit buyer, but also remember, "if it sounds too good to be true..." You are talking about a $3000 colt being shipped a great distance (internationally?). I would imagaine shipping costs would exceed the price they're paying. Is there something about your colt that you're missing? Do you have him under valued?
DO NOT SEND YOUR ACCOUNT INFO (of even part of it). IF they are a real bloodstock buyer, then they would only be rushed by you. If you don't have another buyer in the wings, then they should not feel rushed. it isn't like a few additional days is going to put the colts training schedule off.
I hope it is a legit buyer, but also remember, "if it sounds too good to be true..." You are talking about a $3000 colt being shipped a great distance (internationally?). I would imagaine shipping costs would exceed the price they're paying. Is there something about your colt that you're missing? Do you have him under valued?
Your ABA# and checking account number are on every check you write so this information is almost public knowledge. I asked my bank about this and they said giving out the information is fine for incoming wire transfers...outgoing require you to go to the branch and fill out forms in person with ID. I would check your banks policy and then give the potential buyer the information. As long as he isnt wiring you extra cash I dont see a problem with it.
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KamiBrooks
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Okay, was just looking at this again...
00-971 is a Dubia number based on the following address/info (found, surfing, address isn't important, except that its for a legit organization):
Secure Computing
P.O. Box 500414, Dubai Internet City
Dubai UAE
Tel: 00 971 4 3913500,
Fax: 00 971 4 3918668
But, there are some numbers with VERY high connect charges, so even sending a fax could result in hundreds of dollars on your phone bill that will come back as an international connect charge. I don't know how Dubai regs work, but the number given you could be the equivelant of a US 1-900 number. People have been hit with these sorts of numbers through scams and tried to fight the charges, but none have won that I know of. The connect charge goes to AT&T (or who ever your provider is) and they bill you for it and will not back down or remove the charges (it is the same as if someone called a 1-900 number from your house).
When I'm buying a horse (I've never sold), I never even discuss price/money until I've at least seen a photo. No matter who the sire/dam are, how could you even consider a price range w/o having seen the horse? Let alone start talking about how to complete the purchase.
I hope you haven't sent any info to him.
00-971 is a Dubia number based on the following address/info (found, surfing, address isn't important, except that its for a legit organization):
Secure Computing
P.O. Box 500414, Dubai Internet City
Dubai UAE
Tel: 00 971 4 3913500,
Fax: 00 971 4 3918668
But, there are some numbers with VERY high connect charges, so even sending a fax could result in hundreds of dollars on your phone bill that will come back as an international connect charge. I don't know how Dubai regs work, but the number given you could be the equivelant of a US 1-900 number. People have been hit with these sorts of numbers through scams and tried to fight the charges, but none have won that I know of. The connect charge goes to AT&T (or who ever your provider is) and they bill you for it and will not back down or remove the charges (it is the same as if someone called a 1-900 number from your house).
When I'm buying a horse (I've never sold), I never even discuss price/money until I've at least seen a photo. No matter who the sire/dam are, how could you even consider a price range w/o having seen the horse? Let alone start talking about how to complete the purchase.
I hope you haven't sent any info to him.
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KamiBrooks
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Gerry,
"Your ABA# and checking account number are on every check you write so this information is almost public knowledge"
Yes, that is true. I also agree that an out-going wire has to be done through their site or in an office because you generally pay money for them.
What I'm talking about is simply writing checks against your account. Anyone with your account info can write checks against it, especially since signatures are no longer required. The whole concept of paper checks is pretty much a big gaping hole from a fraud perspective.
I do everything possible by a debit card that can be cancelled/changed far faster/easier than your bank account info.
There are many 'check by phone' services that make it very easy to 'cash a check' to a temporary or foreign account, so the money is not retrievable. Banks may still allow you to dispute checks (so debit back the money like a stolen credit card), but they may be getting to be fewer and fewer.
Many people will also write their SSN on a check at a retail shop without thinking twice because they went there and they initiated the purchase. BUT if I, a total stranger, called you and asked for your SSN, these days you should tell me to go pound salt. It should be the same with your bank account info.
I've worked in information security for 15+ years and with banks for the last 6 years, so I'll admit that I am on the paranoid side.
"Your ABA# and checking account number are on every check you write so this information is almost public knowledge"
Yes, that is true. I also agree that an out-going wire has to be done through their site or in an office because you generally pay money for them.
What I'm talking about is simply writing checks against your account. Anyone with your account info can write checks against it, especially since signatures are no longer required. The whole concept of paper checks is pretty much a big gaping hole from a fraud perspective.
I do everything possible by a debit card that can be cancelled/changed far faster/easier than your bank account info.
There are many 'check by phone' services that make it very easy to 'cash a check' to a temporary or foreign account, so the money is not retrievable. Banks may still allow you to dispute checks (so debit back the money like a stolen credit card), but they may be getting to be fewer and fewer.
Many people will also write their SSN on a check at a retail shop without thinking twice because they went there and they initiated the purchase. BUT if I, a total stranger, called you and asked for your SSN, these days you should tell me to go pound salt. It should be the same with your bank account info.
I've worked in information security for 15+ years and with banks for the last 6 years, so I'll admit that I am on the paranoid side.
I'm with the suspicious group on this. It doesn't sound legit ...
I think a $3,000 yearling isn't a candidate for shipping across the country much less half way across the world. They want you to fax pics and your account # ... ummm, wouldn't they want to see the pictures first ... and then wouldn't you have to dicker at least a little before they send the money?
I'd pass on this "deal" ...
I think a $3,000 yearling isn't a candidate for shipping across the country much less half way across the world. They want you to fax pics and your account # ... ummm, wouldn't they want to see the pictures first ... and then wouldn't you have to dicker at least a little before they send the money?
I'd pass on this "deal" ...