2000 Breeders Cup Classic

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 11:39 pm

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QdIKDulp-YE& ... ed&search=

Will someone, anyone, PLEASE explain to me how Giant's Causeway LOST the race.

He had Tiznow beat...TWICE!!

lol, that might be the most expensive race ever with all of the future stallions in it

turtles11756 · Postby **turtles11756** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:31 am

tiz now was dead game

majxmom · Postby **majxmom** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:35 am

Sometimes those tough horses just look you in the eye and say, "Don't you dare pass me." Easy Goer was a much faster horse than Sunday Silence, but SS beat him when they ran side by side every time.

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:42 am

majxmom wrote:Sometimes those tough horses just look you in the eye and say, "Don't you dare pass me."

Don't be so hard on Giant's Causeway. He never won a Grade 1 on the dirt, but out of his offspring ages three and up, 1 out of 575 has!

Maven · Postby **Maven** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:54 am

As opposed to Tiznow's ONE G1 winner, on all surfaces. GC has the better book and more foals to race, but let's not bring up stud records if you're going to compare the two.

horsenuts · Postby **horsenuts** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:25 am

majxmom wrote:Sometimes those tough horses just look you in the eye and say, "Don't you dare pass me." Easy Goer was a much faster horse than Sunday Silence, but SS beat him when they ran side by side every time.

"Easy Goer was a much faster horse then Sunday Silence" You must have watched different races then I did as SS had more all around natural ability and was more agile and cat like then EG thus giving SS ability to overcome adversity better during a race.

Like many racing fans I THOUGHT EG was the better horse because of his pedigree and connections but from a truly objective point of view SS was in fact the better horse 75% of the time. SS never truly got his due as a racehorse because of the hype and expectations surrounding EG(who was a great horse in his own right).... but in the breeding shed SS once again proved his greatness as an outstanding sire as well as a great racehorse.

If any race shows SS's greatness it has to be the Preakness. Pat Day stunned PVAL at the 1/2 mile pole blowing by him and gaining the upper hand.... it caught PVAL completely off guard and left SS in a lurch.. yet SS was horse enough to overcome having his "doors blown off" and get back into contention and win in the end. Remarkable.

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:47 am

Horsenuts....watch the stretch run.

PVal gave SS a Hall Of Fame ride by keeping Easy Goer pinned to the rail. Easy Goer was always an outside sweep kind of horse...and pinning him on the rail was the difference in the race. I take nothing away from Sunday Silence - he would have broken bones to win a race...but on that day, the positioning was the difference.

Here's the clip...I love watching this race:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSaQPrMS0RQ

horsenuts · Postby **horsenuts** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:52 am

Rokeby Forever wrote:Horsenuts....watch the stretch run.

PVal gave SS a Hall Of Fame ride by keeping Easy Goer pinned to the rail. Easy Goer was always an outside sweep kind of horse...and pinning him on the rail was the difference in the race. I take nothing away from Sunday Silence - he would have broken bones to win a race...but on that day, the positioning was the difference.

Here's the clip...I love watching this race:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSaQPrMS0RQ

Is that right.............

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:55 am

This clip says, "YES!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPl407d-xYQ

horsenuts · Postby **horsenuts** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:59 am

Rokeby Forever wrote:This clip says, "YES!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPl407d-xYQ

And since Rokeby is never wrong and all knowing...............

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:00 am

Clips are clips....

UmmYeah · Postby **UmmYeah** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:12 am

And the final battle goes to...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hbi9VKcR710

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:22 am

In that race, Easy Goer made his outside sweep and gained 3 lengths on Sunday Silence in the final 1/8th to just miss - watch who's ahead after two or three jumps after the wire. In the Preakness, Easy Goer was pinned on the rail and could only match strides with Sunday Silence - that's no coincidence.

horsenuts · Postby **horsenuts** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:28 am

Rokeby Forever wrote:In that race, Easy Goer made his outside sweep and gained 3 lengths on Sunday Silence in the final 1/8th to just miss - watch who's ahead after two or three jumps after the wire. In the Preakness, Easy Goer was pinned on the rail and could only match strides with Sunday Silence - that's no coincidence.

Ever the apologist.... McCarron looks back at the 1/16 pole and never touches SS the rest of the way as he had them measured. The two horses met 4 times... SS won 3 of the 4.

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:35 am

Easy Goer left himself too much to do. Even so, why does Tom Durkin say, "....and Sunday Silence hangs on by a desperate neck?" "Desperate???"