Best Speed Stallions

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Best Speed Stallions

Postby Maven » Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:51 pm

A thread about the fastest horse currently on the track got me thinking about who are the best speed stallions standing at stud today.

Immediately Marquetry comes to mind. He's underrated, he's at an extremely reasonable price, has sired two Eclipse Champion sprinters, and I believe is the only stallion to stallion besides Mr. Prospector, to sire two Breeders' Cup Sprint winners.
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Postby bdw0617 » Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:11 pm

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Postby kimberley mine » Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:42 pm

Put It Back is a decent sort and is having a pretty good year.

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Postby FOS » Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:55 pm

hi Maven...hi kimberley mine

Seems to me that a YOUNG up-and-comer (previously mentioned by kimberley mine) that might be worthy inclusion on a list of the best speed stallions standing at stud today is Put It Back.

His first crop (2-yos of 2005) numbered a mere 34 named foals, and his 2nd crop (2-yos of 2006) numbered 41 named foals. His 3rd crop of 2-yos races this year.

That said...he's already sired the very speedy G2-winning sprinter Smokey Stover, and recent G1 Del Mar sprint winner In Summation. Those two might even face each other in G1-BC Sprint.

Put It Back might not yet be a household name, or particularly fashionable...but it seems to me that he's sired (from relatively limited opportunity) a couple of front-page sprinters that have arguably captured the imagination.

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Postby Maven » Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:58 pm

Very true, and another carrier of the Man o' War sire-line. I must say, Honour and Glory gets ripped up by a lot of people, but I love him and if Put it Back is any indication, he may be an interesting sire of sires for the Man o' War line.
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Postby bdw0617 » Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:01 pm

Maven wrote:Very true, and another carrier of the Man o' War sire-line. I must say, Honour and Glory gets ripped up by a lot of people, but I love him and if Put it Back is any indication, he may be an interesting sire of sires for the Man o' War line.


I don't know how I forgot Put it back and honur and glory.. Put it back should already be in the top 5 if not top 3
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Postby Maven » Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:04 pm

I'll add Trippi and Concorde's Tune to the list. But with the case of Concorde's Tune, he can get you ANYTHING. What a terrific, little, cheap stallion. I have every reason to get something cheap to breed to him next year.
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Postby Rokeby Forever » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:51 pm

In Excess might be the PREMIER speed stallion today.
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Postby bdw0617 » Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:21 pm

besides producing the fastest horse I have ever seen with my own two eyes (Indian Charlie), what has he done?
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Postby Rokeby Forever » Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:40 pm

bdw0617 wrote:besides producing the fastest horse I have ever seen with my own two eyes (Indian Charlie), what has he done?


He has sired some good 2 turn horses like Fleet Indian, Bwana Charlie, and Pampered Princess, but the problem with In Excess foals is that they're extremely fast and a lot of them break down after 3 or 4 races. Indian Charlie didn't last long!
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Postby bdw0617 » Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:47 pm

Rokeby Forever wrote:
bdw0617 wrote:besides producing the fastest horse I have ever seen with my own two eyes (Indian Charlie), what has he done?


He has sired some good 2 turn horses like Fleet Indian, Bwana Charlie, and Pampered Princess, but the problem with In Excess foals is that they're extremely fast and a lot of them break down after 3 or 4 races. Indian Charlie didn't last long!


Indian Charlies trainer didn't help either :evil:

BAffert training iNdian Charlie is like throwing napalm into a fire and wondering what's going to happen
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Postby Maven » Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:49 am

Actually, Rokeby is correct. In Excess could be the best speed stallion in all the land.
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Postby Foggytrip » Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:38 pm

It looks like the Kafwains are going to be rapid

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Postby mikec » Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:37 am

Going back a few postings to what Maven had said...why is it that Honour and Glory gets such little respect ?
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Postby jellac » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:39 pm

Swiss Yodeler.....in California should certainly be considered among the consistent sires of speedy offspring...