Street Sense!

[BenB]

All of you tense to be fools by give measure to the set times.

The total finish time is not important, only the winners check is important.

Gooiing any faster than a winning margin by a neck is SPOILED ENERGY and thus asking for breakdowns, feet, fetlock and cartilage problems
and very important when there is a high temperature in combination with a high moisture rate.
Besides that what do you think of the handicap rate, about 2 pds for each
lenght winning marge, when you would like to race the horse next year.

The more you keep in the horse the more you.ll be paid off

And remenber horses are herd animals, gooiing together you know

[bdw0617]

All of you tense to be fools by give measure to the set times.

The total finish time is not important, only the winners check is important.

Gooiing any faster than a winning margin by a neck is SPOILED ENERGY and thus asking for breakdowns, feet, fetlock and cartilage problems
and very important when there is a high temperature in combination with a high moisture rate.

The more you keep in the horse the more you.ll be paid off

And remenber horses are herd animals, gooiing together you know

uh..that's kinda exactly what I just said.

without the entire herd thing going.. I actually have a pretty interesting theory on that. I don't think T'Bred's are AS MUCH of heard animals as other families of horses. I think the Herd Mentality is not needed as much because 1) is there any easier life than living in a barn and being hand feed day after day and 2) the only survival instincts a T'Bred needs is to steer clear of D. Lukas's barn (I'm sorry I couldn't help it)

Wild Dogs and Domestic Dogs don't act much alike. Go and try to pet a wild "Cat" and see how long it takes to get your hand bit off. To group a T'Bred, an animal that has been domisticated, even moreso back before T'Breds, before that they were used in wars, before that they were used in ....well.. more wars.

after a while, you have to realize you are not only breeding soundness, speed, etc, but also drive, competitive nature... how many times have we said a horse has "heart?" Every race Curlin wins is by Daylight.

I can buy into the SS gawking at the crowd theory, I can. I don't buy into the whole heard theory as much for a horse that has won the BC Juve in the biggest margin of victory ever.

and also, assuming the heard theory was accurate, wouldn't he want to find the biggest group of horses, which would be father back in the pack?

However there are some horses, no matter who they are facing, I'll give you, they hit the stretch with all the steam in the world, they find a group of horses and it's like they found their best friends.

anyway, just a theory.





On a different and lighter note, I will give SS this. His name might be the best "play on words" horse name of all time.

think of the ways:

Street Cinch
No Sense
Common Sense
Street Cents
Good Sense



Boy it's going to be pretty easy to spot his offspring in the future

[BenB]

That,s why people are breeding with nuts horses, or doping them becoming nuts and pour the herd mentally out of them.
Poor horsies, poor people

[bdw0617]

okay, when you say Nuts horses are you reffering to a term I don't know or are you just talking... Fu Peg, Hart Tack like nuts?

[BenB]

The horses people calling them I suppose FREAKING GOOD horses.
Winning a race by 8 or 10 lenghts, most of them (98%) do not last long in grade company

[turtles11756]

street sense is a VERY good colt the question is who's gonna win next monday in the hopefull ?

[MidwestTrainer]

He won big in a couple of races, but it isn't the norm with him. I don't think they want the preakness to happen again.

Some horses look like they are giving their all and really have more in there. I don't know this horse personally so I can't say.

I have an old gelding that has 25 seconds and thirds and only 6 wins. Sometimes he runs off and wins by 9 or 10, but most of the time you can't get him past a horse to save his life. He'll come back acting like he ran in a marathon, but it doesn't matter what level you put him in you can guarantee he will be right there at the finish. He's lazy and just doesn't try hard, just enough to keep up.

I think he has more in him, and I don't think he liked that weather, maybe a little heat stroke-ish? He was super doggy getting back to the winners circle and it was humid, something wasn't 100%. He has his work cut out for him in the Classic, but he has a shot.

[MidwestTrainer]

He won big in a couple of races, but it isn't the norm with him. I don't think they want the preakness to happen again.

Some horses look like they are giving their all and really have more in there. I don't know this horse personally so I can't say.

I have an old gelding that has 25 seconds and thirds and only 6 wins. Sometimes he runs off and wins by 9 or 10, but most of the time you can't get him past a horse to save his life. He'll come back acting like he ran in a marathon, but it doesn't matter what level you put him in you can guarantee he will be right there at the finish. He's lazy and just doesn't try hard, just enough to keep up.

I think he has more in him, and I don't think he liked that weather, maybe a little heat stroke-ish? He was super doggy getting back to the winners circle and it was humid, something wasn't 100%. He has his work cut out for him in the Classic, but he has a shot.

Just heard in the interview on HRTV, Nafzger said he had to get water on him right away because he was starting to have a heat stroke back at the winner's circle.

[geowarrior]

I'm not surprised he needed the water, he was also blowing harder than I've ever seen him blow after a race. Not enough people are taking into account the heat factor in assessing yesterday's races.

[zinn21]

Amen Geo, it was sweltering for the Travers. But let's be clear here-This is a really, really good horse-The only horse to win the Breeders Cup Juvenile and the Derby; a horse who has won on four different racetracks that I know of; a horse who has maintained his racing excellence for well over a year and a horse who wins when perhaps not at his best.

[horsenuts]

Amen Geo, it was sweltering for the Travers. But let's be clear here-This is a really, really good horse-The only horse to win the Breeders Cup Juvenile and the Derby; a horse who has won on four different racetracks that I know of; a horse who has maintained his racing excellence for well over a year and a horse who wins when perhaps not at his best.

Agree, SS is a better horse then people give credit. His PP chart speaks for itself never off the board in 11 starts with 6 wins including two Classic winss and a nose lose in a third.

[Morningside]

I think what a lot of people are missing the point here... the travers was a very good lesson for SS for the BC - the team was deliberately playing out different scenarios. SS was travelling much closer to the pace and also went wide most of the race, and it seems Calvin got him to switch leads late to avoid a Preakness-type performance. All in all, I think it was a good race, a good lesson for him. He should be well on course for the BC now.

[zinn21]

Carl Nafzger calls SS the best he's ever trained and he's trained some really good ones.

For those who dismiss SS as something less than outstanding, I suggest you take up another career/hobby/avocation, or at minimum start asking questions rather than making statements because you couldn't recognize a good horse if he kicked you in the head ..

[Worksoplad]

"Agree, SS is a better horse then people give credit. His PP chart speaks for itself never off the board in 11 starts with 6 wins including two Classic winss and a nose lose in a third."

Only one Classic win, old bean.

[winds]

Well, for someone who wasn't impressed with Seattle Slew until he was defeated by Exceller , I'll put my 2 cents in. I don't think Street Sense is an improving horse. I too thought his compitition in the Jim Dandy and Travers was a bit suspect and thought he should have won by more.

He proved in the BC Juv last year he can open up, so what's his excuse this year? I'm not a fan of Carl N's, never have been. I thought that he behaved like a spoiled little kid after the Preakness. My horsie lost so I'm going to take him home, naa naa naa.......

Is Street Sense a nice horse, yes. Is he the end all, no.

Oh, yea, I told Billy Turner about me not liking Seattle Slew and he laughed. Turned to his now wife Pat and said " You're right, she does tell the truth."

winds