ARAZI

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:41 am

Why wasn't this monster ever a success at stud?

Maven · Postby **Maven** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:29 pm

His female family has been historically bad producers of stallions, although they've had a few "ok" ones. Recently, though, Exchange Rate has been successful.

cadaques · Postby **cadaques** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:30 pm

Good question bdw. Maybe Congaree will carry on in his daddy's place. I happen to have a Congaree foal that is one of the sharpest I've had the pleasure to be associated with. He's is the KeeNov sale. Out of a Halo mare who is out of an Herbager mare. Extrtraordinary conformation, smart as a whip, absolutely fearless. By the way, my initials are bdw...

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:33 pm

cadaques wrote:Good question bdw. Maybe Congaree will carry on in his daddy's place. I happen to have a Congaree foal that is one of the sharpest I've had the pleasure to be associated with. He's is the KeeNov sale. Out of a Halo mare who is out of an Herbager mare. Extrtraordinary conformation, smart as a whip, absolutely fearless. By the way, my initials are bdw...

shoot me a HIP number when the sale comes up

Congaree is an interesting stallion... Azari was a freakin monster and pedigree has alot to do with it, but you would think someone would have given him a little more of a chance before shipping him all across the world.

Maven · Postby **Maven** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:34 pm

He had plenty of chances in multiple markets and never got consistently good horses. At a certain point, you have to cut your losses and run. That female family is a top tier one without question, but look up the male representatives that went to stud from it. They were ALMOST all extremely lackluster.

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:49 pm

Arazi is a front end mess..I don't think a lot of breeders were impressed with his physical.

Maven · Postby **Maven** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:01 pm

I know he was small but I never saw him in person. With the size and a possible front end issue, I can see why he would turn off a lot of people.

It should also be noted that the Blushing Groom line was losing interest Stateside for quite some time before turning it around and becoming a very viable and top class line we know of it today.

It's funny how the commercial market and sirelines go in and out of fashion, sometimes in as short of a time as a decade. Hail to Reason is a good example of that.

Rokeby Forever · Postby **Rokeby Forever** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:17 pm

Maven...you stuck a knife through my heart with that analysis. :cry:

Maven · Postby **Maven** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:19 pm

Well, if it makes you feel better, I think it's making a very real resurgence.

Tappiano · Postby **Tappiano** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:04 am

I saw Arazi when he was standing at Dalham and he did not strike me as small. In fact, he filled out so nicely that he looked more like a quarter horse. He was nowhere near as "lean" and round as, let's say, Runaway Groom and I was surprised by that. His legs looked solid, although I seem to recall he was slightly narrow.

Perhaps the problem lies in the mares he covered. Seems the BG line does better with more durable, less fashionable bloodlines then anything else.

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:07 pm

Tappiano wrote:I saw Arazi when he was standing at Dalham and he did not strike me as small. In fact, he filled out so nicely that he looked more like a quarter horse. He was nowhere near as "lean" and round as, let's say, Runaway Groom and I was surprised by that. His legs looked solid, although I seem to recall he was slightly narrow.

Perhaps the problem lies in the mares he covered. Seems the BG line does better with more durable, less fashionable bloodlines then anything else.

I think you can find some real value in a stallion like him... just wasn't bred to the correct mares.

Flight · Postby **Flight** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:01 am

Arazi is doing very well at Independent Stallions in Victoria.

I saw him a year ago and he was happy to spend the Winter in his paddock with a rug. He is not a big horse but I thought he was a very well put together compact type. Plus he looked great in the coat and was very happy with himself.

He and Brief Truce were having a great time running along their fence lines.

The farm are trying to breed a few fillies by him to retain and I certainly wouldn't knock one back either.

His oldest here are now three year olds and he has had some tidy winners from not a lot of opportunity so who knows. Maybe some of our girls will suit him.

I'm even considering using him this year as my boy is stuck in quarantine and it is very doubtful that he will get to the farm this season.

The only problem is that I wouldn't be putting type to type however the pedigrees are a good match.

Ill-bred · Postby **Ill-bred** » Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:17 am

The few Congarees I've seen have looked good if you don't mind a little crookedness in the front legs.

I'm rooting for him.

bdw0617 · Postby **bdw0617** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:07 am

trying to Give Azari some love here. He is the damsire of Lahudood who won the Flower Bowl this weekend.

it's a start!!!

kimberley mine · Postby **kimberley mine** » Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:24 am

Arazi has another handicap besides an unfashionable (at the time) sireline. Northern Dancer, for all his success as a sire of sires, is an absolute flop as a broodmare sire of sires. Roar and Not For Love are decent regional stallions, but so far nobody has really done well with him there. Aptitude has a few nice runners but when you consider the mares bred to him and the fact that he only has 3 stakes winners, it looks like he's headed down the same primrose path.

Makes you wonder about Tap Dance City and Noverre.