A Dynaformer brings $2.9 Million!!!!

[bdw0617]

Even though he's had success with them on dirt, he's still looked upon as a turf stallion, and probably rightfully so.

His three best sons (Barbaro, Dynever, and Perfect Drift) were ALL dirt horses. Dynaformer's rep is based solely on him being by Roberto...to say "rightfully so" that he's classified as a turf stallion is nothing more than market sheep mentality.

During his racing career, Dynaformer made only 8% of his earnings on the turf...was he a turf horse???

Let's look at Giant's Causeway, After Market, and Seeking The Dia - is Storm Cat a "turf stallion, and rightfully so?"

lol, when crossed with Rahy he is

pefect drift is STILL racing. let me put that in perspective. I was in high school when he was a 2YO

[Maven]

Even though he's had success with them on dirt, he's still looked upon as a turf stallion, and probably rightfully so.

His three best sons (Barbaro, Dynever, and Perfect Drift) were ALL dirt horses. Dynaformer's rep is based solely on him being by Roberto...to say "rightfully so" that he's classified as a turf stallion is nothing more than market sheep mentality.

During his racing career, Dynaformer made only 8% of his earnings on the turf...was he a turf horse???

Let's look at Giant's Causeway, After Market, and Seeking The Dia - is Storm Cat a "turf stallion, and probably rightfully so?"

Dynaformer's average horse, which most buyers are going to end up with realistically, do better on turf. It's just a fact. He's had very good success on the dirt, and I mentioned that, but again, when you buy him there's a good chance you're buying a turf horse.

As everyone knows, I love turf runners, but many do not.

[Rokeby Forever]

Dynaformer's average horse, which most buyers are going to end up with realistically, do better on turf. It's just a fact. He's had very good success on the dirt, and I mentioned that, but again, when you buy him there's a good chance you're buying a turf horse.

Dynaformer is stereotyped to his own disadvantage.

Take the case of Critical Eye. She started her career on the grass, and once moved to the dirt, became a Grade 1 winner. Barbaro was a turf monster as a two year old, but moved to the dirt and became a KY Derby winner.

Starrer never tried the grass (to my knowledge)...what for?

Because Dynaformer is perceived as a "turf sire," how many of his runners stay on the turf when they might be just as good, if not better, on the dirt?

[Maven]

I would venture to say that a good portion, if not a majority, find their first spot or first few spots on the dirt.

But whatever... I'm honestly a little drained. I dont have it in me to debate or argue tonight. Who knew not getting what you want could be so tiring!

[hpkingjr]

But whatever... I'm honestly a little drained. I dont have it in me to debate or argue tonight. Who knew not getting what you want could be so tiring!

Maven:
I always wondered why I am so tired every night. Now I know.

[geowarrior]

It's a shame that Dynever went to Saudi Arabia. However, I think one reason that Dynaformer sons have not done well at stud is because so many of them were gelded. It's hard to be a good sire if you don't have the equipment. Perfect Drift being the obvious example, Mystery Giver another one. If this new high priced one that Rokeby has gone all John Travolta about has a great female family then I have high hopes. I believe Purim is going to be retired to stud for the coming year. Then of course we have Nicanor, but that would be too good to be true. I can only think of a few other Dynaformers currently at stud, Dynameaux in Texas, Final Markdown, and one of his very early ones who definitely did not perform, Blumin' Affair.

Dynaformer is already up there on the broodmare sire list with his highest earner being Hollywood Story. And remember that several of his millionaires have been mares - e.g. Riskaverse, Film Maker, etc.

And finally he's not done producing yet - he's just ornery enough to go on for a few years yet and I hope he does.

I haven't seen a lot of Dynaformer yearlings so maybe they are coarse, but I certainly didn't consider Barbaro at three a coarse looking horse. I thought he was striking.

As far as precocity goes, I would not say that Dynaformer quite emulates Pleasant Tap. He does get two year old winners. What's more his trademark I would say is durability. The oldest Dynaformer I know that's currently running is Intern, still winning 5k claimers and placing in starter allowances at age 11, and he seems to love it. Team Block said the same about Mystery Giver when they retired him a few weeks ago, he still wanted to be in on the action, but at 9 years old and clearly not the horse he once was, they were afraid he might hurt himself.

As far as I know Dynaformers are frequently fiesty, but not as nasty as the old man himself, and I believe I heard somewhere that Dynaformer had some kind of bad experience as a young horse that contributed to his temper.

Dirt, turf, young, old, males, females, Dynaformer can do it all - and don't forget the Steeplechase. Whatever you want to say about him he's been a success story. A great sire from him would be the cherry topping.

Can you tell I'm a fan?

[bdw0617]

very good read geo.