Buddha

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Buddha

Postby rudydee » Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:56 am

From well placed sources-Hill N Dale is looking to move Buddha out.

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Postby madelyn » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:06 pm

Gosh how unexpected :roll: since he isn't much as a sire.
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Postby Rokeby Forever » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:07 pm

Coming to a Korean kitchen nearest you?
What synthetics are to California racing:
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Postby fastappy » Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:47 pm

Someone please tell Kentucky we can't take any more throwdowns in California. It's time Kentucky started exporting their rejects to other states. :lol:

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Postby Sir Barton » Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:18 am

What was with all his IMO high rna's at the sale, take what you can get and try somthing that might work the beauty pagent ended when they hit the track.
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Postby bdw0617 » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:14 am

well.. his offspring just isn't lighting the world on fire.
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Postby FOS » Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:01 am

hi guys

The state of both Buddha (as a sire) and The Green Monkey (as a racehorse) might both serve as glaring reminders...that even those who have experienced BIG-time success in the thoroughbred game, are not immune from the possibiltiy of making BIG-time BAD-decisions/selections and/or experiencing BIG-time BAD-results.

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Postby Maven » Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:04 am

In their defense, Buddha deserved a shot at stud. By a hot stallion out of a Storm Cat daughter who's tail-female to Kerala, the dam of Damascus.

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Postby fastappy » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:04 pm

[quote="FOS"]hi guys

The state of both Buddha (as a sire) and The Green Monkey (as a racehorse) might both serve as glaring reminders...that even those who have experienced BIG-time success in the thoroughbred game, are not immune from the possibiltiy of making BIG-time BAD-decisions/selections and/or experiencing BIG-time BAD-results.

Respectfully[/quote]

Absolutely true. It is very difficult, even after having done your homework to predict or otherwise measure a stallions chances of success. Top Kentucky farms with extensive experience and knowledge have sold off great sires.

The correction in the market this year at Keeneland is a wake up call for some of the outrageous stallion fees for unproven sires. The gap between the top tier proven stallions and those that are less expensive but are getting comparable results, appears to be narrowing.

People have to stop being sheep and follow the hype put out there by many of the farms. Do your home work, realize the risk in breeding to any unproven sire, know your level of risk tolerance, don't put all your eggs in one basket, etc. And you'll need a lot of luck!

I know a lot of people just fall for the big and beautiful scenario, ignoring the Dynaformers, Rahy's, etc. for example. Other people love surprises and that unknown quantity gets their imagination running wild about the next great sire and how they may get in at the ground level. This is despite the facts that 85% of the sires will eventually fail, despite the Kentucky puppy mills turning out crops of 150-200.

There was a lot to like about Buddha and I would have thought that he would succeed, but I don't breed for the market and I won't breed to the uproven sires. There's no reason a poor boy (in my case) should spend his hard earned cash to help the rich man prove his horse.
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Postby Rokeby Forever » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:07 pm

Fastappy - maybe you can pick up a Gentlemen mare to breed to Buddha. Then you can breed her back to Behrens. Think of the possibilities!
What synthetics are to California racing:

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Postby fastappy » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:26 pm

[quote="Rokeby Forever"]Fastappy - maybe you can pick up a Gentlemen mare to breed to Buddha. Then you can breed her back to Behrens. Think of the possibilities![/quote]

Roke you're a genious! :shock: You mean like a reversion to the mean, and I'll deviate less from AEI vs CI and eventually breed a winner. Brilliant! :D

Have an ale on me! :D

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:54 pm

It's Darwin, Fastappy - if you breed enough sires and mares that are devoid of genetic material, nature eventually corrects itself.
What synthetics are to California racing:

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Postby fastappy » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:12 pm

You're not called a "Chef De Roke" for nothing.

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:17 pm

"Chef De Roke"....I guess it's better than "Chef Boyardee."
What synthetics are to California racing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gb0mxcpPOU