Hip 4543

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Postby petersd » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:46 am

Bought her at the Keeneland sale. Any suggestions on who I should breed to?

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Postby madelyn » Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:17 am

ROCKING TRICK! But if that doesn't float your boat, you might look at Sunday Break.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....

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Postby sunday_silence » Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:12 am

Sheesh. How did that mare go for such a low price? Congrats!

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Postby Tappiano » Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:11 am

Looks like they've had some problems getting/keeping her in foal, but with her pedigree that price is a terrific bargain. Congrats.

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Postby zinn21 » Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:13 am

Nicely done Petersd, I like Brahms for your mare.

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:11 am

Pioneering.
What synthetics are to California racing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gb0mxcpPOU

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Postby Colonel » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:40 am

sunday_silence wrote:Sheesh. How did that mare go for such a low price? Congrats!



Here's the one that surprised me:

http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/nov07/pdfs/4242.pdf

$1,000, wow.
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Postby madelyn » Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:15 am

Yes, Thursday-Sunday were pretty weak. I got #4132, and she IS in foal.
So Run for the Roses, as fast as you can.....

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Postby UmmYeah » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:41 am

Rokeby Forever wrote:Pioneering.


Rokeby, I don't get it. You bash everything with a bit of Storm Cat in it, yet you recommend breeding to his half-brother? Is Storm Bird really the offender, then?

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:04 pm

His half brother is a different story...he sires plain looking horses, but they stay sound. This broodmare is unraced, so I'm thinking of a cheap stallion that throws some soundness - Pioneering fits the bill. His best 2007 runners are all 5 and 6 year olds.

I think being a half brother means only so much. Is Storm Bird the tree of the poisonous fruit? Who knows.
What synthetics are to California racing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gb0mxcpPOU

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Postby UmmYeah » Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:24 pm

I agree with you. I love Pioneering, and I think he's a good option to bring soundness. Since this mare is unraced and since she seems to have some trouble throwing foals that make it to the track (that mating to Fu Peg might have been a bit misguided), I think she needs a sire that gets some sound runners. If the mare stays in KY, I like Bright Launch as well. Is she's going back to CA, Roar gets some sound runners (but $7.5K may be a bit steep, since she cost less than half that).

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More info

Postby petersd » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:36 am

Ironically, I bought the mare off a lady I know, so I was able to glean a bit more info on her, post-sale.
I don't know anything about the Gone West, but the Fu Peg colt sold as a weanling for $70,000, then $10,000 as a yearling (ouch). He's now a stallion in Texas, standing for $1,000 and he got 10 mares last year (his first season).
Don't know what happened in '03 and '04, but her '05 Deputy Commander filly sold for $25K as a weanling, then $85K as a yearling. She's made 2 starts, has one second in MSW company, and looks to have a bit of talent.
The Johannesburg colt sold for $25K as a yearling. She slipped to Orientate last year, and to Artie Schiller this year.
The mare will stay in Kentucky. We have all the vet records, and think we found out how we'll need to breed her (lights, oxytocin and Regumate). Her babies (when she has them) sell well, so they must be nice looking individuals (as is she, typical Slew body with big shoulder and hips - very correct). In this case, I don't follow the rule of thumb on purchase price determining stud fee. I'm willing to go to $20K for the right stallion and the right deal.

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Re: More info

Postby Rokeby Forever » Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:19 am

I don't mean to argue, Petersd, but you write:
petersd wrote:Fu Peg colt sold as a weanling for $70,000, then $10,000 as a yearling (ouch).

And then later write:
petersd wrote:Her babies (when she has them) sell well, so they must be nice looking individuals


How do you reconcile the two?
What synthetics are to California racing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gb0mxcpPOU

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Postby petersd » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:30 am

It must have looked good as a weanling, then went crooked or didn't vet as a yearling.

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Postby Rokeby Forever » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:04 am

At any rate, good luck with her!
What synthetics are to California racing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gb0mxcpPOU