I remembered this the other day from a form a few years ago...Turf Paradise if I recall correctly.........that I saw a horse that was quite inbred up close....so this begs the question, just how bad is this?
take alook at mistaken3 in the database. (out of groovy with the dam out of groovy)
Just how bad is this?
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CdnDerbyFan
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Just how bad is this?
too many things and too many horses
Oo, yuck. The only horse contributing any "new" blood in three generations is the granddam, Moonlight lady. By the sound of the horse's name, Mistaken, I'd be willing to bet anything this was a "by the light of the silvery moon" fence jumping party gone sadly awry, and a good time was had by all, yes indeed.
I will keep my eyes peeled for comments on the physiological outcome of such matches - tell the stories, please! Has anyone here seen such an inbred horse up close and personal, like? Curious.
I will keep my eyes peeled for comments on the physiological outcome of such matches - tell the stories, please! Has anyone here seen such an inbred horse up close and personal, like? Curious.
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i think the term "jabeep" is used when it happens with people lol........Inyureye wrote:Oo, yuck. The only horse contributing any "new" blood in three generations is the granddam, Moonlight lady. By the sound of the horse's name, Mistaken, I'd be willing to bet anything this was a "by the light of the silvery moon" fence jumping party gone sadly awry, and a good time was had by all, yes indeed.
I will keep my eyes peeled for comments on the physiological outcome of such matches - tell the stories, please! Has anyone here seen such an inbred horse up close and personal, like? Curious.
A QH breeder I worked for once told me this when I questioned a particular cross he had decided on...
"If it works, its classic linebreeding, if it doesn't, its accidenatal inbreeding"
Guess it comes down to the way you look at it.
Have there been any really successful racers that were closely inbred (linebred?)
I know QH breeders love to play the "linebreeding"aspect of things, but sometimes things get carried away!
"If it works, its classic linebreeding, if it doesn't, its accidenatal inbreeding"
Guess it comes down to the way you look at it.
Have there been any really successful racers that were closely inbred (linebred?)
I know QH breeders love to play the "linebreeding"aspect of things, but sometimes things get carried away!
Coronation V (Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe) is about the only top racer inbred 2x2 I can think of off the bat, but there were several 2x3/3x2. Marcel Boussac used to play around a lot with close inbreeding; I believe his observation on the practice was that you could get some pretty good stock if you inbred by breeding the best to the best, but you did have to shoot more foals because of defects. Coronation V's parents were both Classic winners by Tourbillon (himself a Classic winner), by the by.
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A QH Champion was the product of a accidental breeding between a full brother and sister; but I can't remember the names.
And back to Throughbreds, Weatherby's outfit says that the Spanker mare was the product of breeding Spanker to his dam, though some make out that a great horseman like James Darcy wouldn't have permitted it (but if he did, it sure worked!).
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And back to Throughbreds, Weatherby's outfit says that the Spanker mare was the product of breeding Spanker to his dam, though some make out that a great horseman like James Darcy wouldn't have permitted it (but if he did, it sure worked!).
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Take a look at Flagette's pedigree and then take a look at her progeny.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.php? ... ndard&x2=n
http://www.pedigreequery.com/index.php? ... ndard&x2=n
Inyureye wrote:I will keep my eyes peeled for comments on the physiological outcome of such matches - tell the stories, please! Has anyone here seen such an inbred horse up close and personal, like? Curious.
Closest I ever saw - I worked with a filly who was by Le Good Times, an Olden Times stallion, out of an Olden Times mare whose name I can't recall. She was pretty normal, personality-wise...a little ditzy, but sweet. Physically - she a bit on the small side, but otherwise drop-dead gorgeous.
One of the prettiest, most correct horses I ever saw, wrapped in a lovely bright bay with a blaze & stockings. Movement-wise, on a scale of one to ten, she was a twelve.
Far as I know, her breeding was no accident, but the folks I worked for bought her as a weanling so I can't be sure. I don't even know if she was ever named with the JC - she hadn't been as of when she was sold. Some hunter/jumper people caught a glimpse of her when out to look at another horse, and snapped her right up!
