The Mans not doing too well this year.

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The Mans not doing too well this year.

Postby Crystal » Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:16 pm

Its bound to happen. He'll be pensioned by the end of the year


http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=44483

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Postby Sam » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:57 pm

Overbrook has taken steps to aid Storm Cat. The breeding shed staff has been collecting dismount samples after Storm Cat breeds, centrifuging the sample, and adding extenders before re-infusing it into the mare.

“But Storm Cat is such a good breeder that there is not much dismount with which to work,” Waldman said.

I'm trying not to make wet-spot jokes.

This has been coming for awhile. Now, maybe all those moaners who screamed every time a mare was retired and announced as going to Storm Cat in the last 2 years will get it. He was getting OLD. He wasn't going to be around for ever. IF you were going to go, you had to go NOW.

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Postby Barbaro06 » Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:20 pm

Yep, he's up there in age. I just hope they don't use him until he keels over from breeding. Move him far away from the shed and let him live his last years in some quiet.

Retire him and move on to the next big stud.....
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Postby tbrace » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:39 pm

"Hope they don't use him until he keels over from breeding"?

What a way to go!

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Postby Nerd » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:54 pm

Overbrook has taken steps to aid Storm Cat. The breeding shed staff has been collecting dismount samples after Storm Cat breeds, centrifuging the sample, and adding extenders before re-infusing it into the mare.

Wow. I didn't know they could do that--I would think somebody would have a hissy fit about the definition of 'live cover.'

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Postby NiteOwl666 » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:25 pm

I didn't know that either...and I too wondered about the AI thing - I went to The Jockey Club website and checked out the rulebook - Under Eligibility For Foal Registration, Letter D:

"As an aid to the Breeding, a portion of the ejaculate produced by the stallion during such mating may immediately be placed in the uterus of the broodmare being bred. "

I'm guessing that part of the rules is what allows them to do that without the resulting foal being ineligible for registration?

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Postby Sam » Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:47 pm

NiteOwl666 wrote:I didn't know that either...and I too wondered about the AI thing - I went to The Jockey Club website and checked out the rulebook - Under Eligibility For Foal Registration, Letter D:

"As an aid to the Breeding, a portion of the ejaculate produced by the stallion during such mating may immediately be placed in the uterus of the broodmare being bred. "

I'm guessing that part of the rules is what allows them to do that without the resulting foal being ineligible for registration?

The thing I'm hung up on is the "immediately" part of that statement. Define 'immediately." By the statement in the article, they are "centrifuging the sample and adding extenders" -- um, that all takes some time. Granted, not a considerably long time, but it's at least an hour. Even if it's half an hour, that doesn't sound like "immediately" to me.

It's like the debates we had in when I was in college about exactly how long it took to "premeditate" a murder.

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Postby Crystal » Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:04 am

I'm sure they have everything pre made if they know they are going to get a dismount sample.. It's not exactly something you decide to do last minute..He's not in a private bathroom with his pants down with a hustler..

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Postby dray33 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:54 am

BRUSHED BAYOU failed under 2 covers to STORM CAT, Overbrook was great to deal with, fair, honest. She now has a date with UNBRIDLED'S SONG.

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Postby Crystal » Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:36 am

Oo LA LA Dray! Nice.

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Postby Danzig » Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:26 am

We've been using extenders the last couple of years...Doesn't take as long as you may think. We can have it done within 5 minutes of dismount.

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Postby Toccet02 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:59 am

If horses could read and understand spoken English, AP Indy would be kicking up his heels right about now. He is the "cultural" replacement, in my book.
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Postby larrygene » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:38 pm

What about Smart Strike???? Could he be the next SC???

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Postby Toccet02 » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:59 pm

yes, I think so...but AP Indy is better known right now to horse people and non-horse people alike.
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Postby London » Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:52 pm

Smart Strike had an explosive run last year and he's been a consistently good stallion from the start, but I think we'll see his fee start to drop a little after Curlin makes his exit.

I think he's a very good stallion, but not exceptional. His best horses in his entire stud career all happened to be active at the same time. A lucky feat.

Hope he proves me wrong, but I don't see him breaking 200k ever in fee.